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Author Topic: HH bug got me ... Part One!  (Read 140145 times)

Offline Nate Steen .

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8040 on: March 07, 2012, 08:39:00 PM »
Charlie...great photos...great looking bow too.  I love to see Hunter's heads, backquivers w/ woodies, and longbows.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8041 on: March 07, 2012, 08:40:00 PM »
Irish,  

Glad you're liking it and it is liking you.  Goes to show that not all written or said about these bows is true for all, in regards to shock.  They do awe, though!

Mudd,

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"don't shoot but one arrow at a time"    :banghead:   (my paraphrase)

Glad that you and Tony are gettin' on with well with those Buddy Bows.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8042 on: March 07, 2012, 08:44:00 PM »
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Mine is about 1/4" outside center with the leather side plate.  I have a big five.
Jeff,
Do you find this bow rather critical of arrow spine?
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8043 on: March 07, 2012, 09:03:00 PM »
Just finding the right arrow spine.  I draw 60# @ 26", 26" arrow to BOP, and I am shooting 55-60 with 225 grain on the front.  I can shoot heavier spine but this shooting pretty good.  1/4" is quite a bit outside center.  I have some 50-55 I am working on that are fir, I am going to try for a 190 gr. point.  These are target arrows with field points.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8044 on: March 07, 2012, 09:10:00 PM »
Great pics Charlie ...
I think thats maybe the smallest rider I have ever seen on a glassed bow !
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8045 on: March 07, 2012, 09:22:00 PM »
Charlie thanks for sharing that beauty with us.

Great pictures!!

God bless,Mudd

PS: As soon as Tony and I can get it all together we will be posting a thread with the "Buddy Bows" including complete pictures of both.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8046 on: March 07, 2012, 09:23:00 PM »
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Here is something I am trying with the rest side plate set up.  I was talking with Nate Steen about the side plates and discussing how Howard Hill did not shoot with one.  Nate is doing something really cool with the side plates on his bows now.  

I cut down a thin piece of calf hair and some on the  shelf that is trimmed.  The arrow is resting on the "wedge" and the circle side plate.

 
 
 
Jeff,
How wide is that shelf and could you post another picture with an arrow, showing the arrow overhang, if any (to the left of the wedge) and the bottom clearance?

Nate,
Would a radiused shelf do the same job as keeping the shaft between the wedge and strike plate? Incidentally, why don't the true Hill style bows use a radiused shelf?

Thanks.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8047 on: March 07, 2012, 09:30:00 PM »
I can tell you that the arrow sits on the wedge.  A 23/64" arrow is wider than the shelf.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8048 on: March 07, 2012, 09:35:00 PM »
Jeff, thanks for the replies. Much appreciated.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8049 on: March 07, 2012, 09:46:00 PM »
Mudd, you'd better send that bow up here to Iowa before it ruins all your arrows.    :nono:  

All kidding aside, Nate sure put together a beauty there. You aren't kidding, it doesn't get much quieter than that! Looks like she shoots as sweet as she sounds too!
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8050 on: March 07, 2012, 09:49:00 PM »
That piece of leather sticking up makes my arrows inconsistent. I can't use one. Now just for fun I wonder what would happen if I floated the arrow as you suggest.

I really can't think of what I might gain though.  A cleaner arrow? Hunting it seems to add a level of additional variability and I have a hard time imagining that I would be able to focus on game and not wonder where the arrow ended up on the rest.

Kind of a modified drop away arrow rest....?

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8051 on: March 07, 2012, 10:20:00 PM »
all that rest stuff is just to have a starting point for the arrow launch.  the arrow doesn't slide across the rest when shot, it jumps up and away from the rest.  getting the sideplate closer to the bow adds in tuning ease.  the arrow shelf extension is just that, making the shelf wider.  the taller extension is to make an arrow holder which helps keep the arrow on the rest in a fast shooting situation, or when on stand, or when stillhunting.  my arrows don't tough the shelf extension when the arrow is on the rest. and the arrows fly up and away from the extension.  some fletching combos might hit the extension causing erratic flight.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8052 on: March 07, 2012, 10:56:00 PM »
Thanks for the explanation, Nate.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8053 on: March 07, 2012, 10:58:00 PM »
Ben,

Not a "glassed" bow.
The only glass is the little piece glued to the bottom of the riser piece of walnut. I did that to provide a more flexible fade out for the walnut to prevent lifting of the riser piece.

I did put a piece of carbon in it just under the backing bamboo. It seems to add spunk without adding noise or being shocky.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8054 on: March 07, 2012, 11:03:00 PM »
Glen,

Yep, I made that one myself I tend to make all the bows i shoot.

Chris,

The bow started out with back set but finally settled into about an inch and a half of set. Just about right for my tastes.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8055 on: March 08, 2012, 12:41:00 AM »
Charlie,
seems you have really big hands. What are the measurements of your grip?
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8056 on: March 08, 2012, 07:00:00 AM »
awesome Charlie ...
bet she is a sweet shooter and looks like a its just made for whacking hogs and bunnies .....
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8057 on: March 08, 2012, 07:45:00 AM »
Charlie,
Good lookin' longbow ! Thanks for posting the photos!
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8058 on: March 08, 2012, 11:19:00 AM »
tg2nd,

I always make my grips smaller than most. That one is 3 3/4" from edge of leather to edge of leather.

I've made a few that were 3 1/2", but that seems to be a little too short.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #8059 on: March 08, 2012, 01:11:00 PM »
Wow, this has become a very interesting thread. I'd never have thought back in Jan of 2011 it would have become this large.    :wavey:  
Thanks everyone.
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