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Author Topic: Why is this happening?  (Read 730 times)

Offline encore4me

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Why is this happening?
« on: March 31, 2016, 08:42:00 AM »
Sometimes when shooting my bow I can hear the arrow hitting something hard. I believe it is the arrow shelf, see pic below. Here is my setup. 45# Striker, shooting GT 500 spine arrows. Arrow length 28", 100gr insert, 200gr point. I looks like the arrow rest is not wide enough but should the arrow be out past the riser that far?
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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2016, 08:47:00 AM »
If it only happens now and then it's most likely your release. Try to be smooth and consistent on every let go.
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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2016, 09:56:00 AM »
I've had the same shelf wear at times and used to pull my hair out, (mission accomplished), thinking it was an arrow spine issue.
For me, it was a release issue, typically dragging my ring finger or a collapse.  
You could try raising your nocking point, or putting a spacer under your shelf to raise it a bit but I'd focus on release first.
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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2016, 11:41:00 AM »
I'll bet it's a spine problem.  Try a 125 gr. point and see if it's better.

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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2016, 11:43:00 AM »
I'll bet it's a spine problem.  Try a 125 gr. point and see if it's better.

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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2016, 12:50:00 PM »
I had a little of this and switched to cock feather in and raised my nocking point. I have not had any more wear on shelf since. I also second spine or release.
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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2016, 01:15:00 PM »
All seem like great starting points. Especially wingnuts advice. Carbons can be a stiff bunch, but in that bow, with a 500 spine and 300 grains out front, I bet that and the nock point are beating that thing around good.
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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2016, 02:42:00 PM »
Just raise up the nock set by 1/8" before doing anything else
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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2016, 02:45:00 PM »
If you're shooting split, it's possible that you are pinching the nock of the arrow. If you put too much downward pressure from your index finger, or too much heel into the grip, you can have this issue. I had a 44# Striker, and had the same problem. At 28" with 300 grains out front, your arrows are probably fine unless your bow is cut closer to center than mine was. It could also be caused by string torque.
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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2016, 10:07:00 PM »
NBK me too
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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2016, 10:19:00 PM »
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I'll bet it's a spine problem.  Try a 125 gr. point and see if it's better.

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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2016, 10:34:00 PM »
What is your draw length?

From the pic, which is a little difficult to discern, the side shelf wear appears to be wearing towards the bow hand. What is your assessment?
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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2016, 11:06:00 PM »
Agree... Raise your Nocking point first,
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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2016, 11:08:00 PM »
I had the same issue before, worked on my release and had to raise my nocking point a little. Problem solved!
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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2016, 11:50:00 PM »
Could be to much presure on the string with the ring finger or high elbow. A simple cure is an elevated rest. If you don't want to shoot with a rest concentrate on keeping your elbow down and most of the pressure on the index finger.

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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2016, 04:37:00 AM »
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Agree... Raise your Nocking point first,
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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2016, 05:25:00 AM »
When the shelf is wider than the shelf the knock of the arrow slaps off the hard rest.  Place a pressure point at least and inch thick under the rest that is the same width or slightly narrower than the shaft.  On bows with shelves like that I use a round wool furniture pad (like you put on the feet of furniture for hard floors)band cut a corner off so it s the width of the arrow and stick it on (it has adhesive back).  Dan Quillien gave me that solution over twenty years ago.  I have bough allot of great bow cheap because others did not know this trick ;-)
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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2016, 05:25:00 AM »
Should have said "when the shelf is wider than the arrow ......."
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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2016, 05:27:00 AM »
It should have also read "place a pressure point at least 1/8" thick (not 1").....0529 am and the coffee has not kicked in yet
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Re: Why is this happening?
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2016, 05:37:00 AM »
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I'll bet it's a spine problem.  Try a 125 gr. point and see if it's better.

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