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Author Topic: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics  (Read 10792 times)

Offline Titan_Bow

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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #80 on: February 13, 2007, 03:03:00 PM »
I would like to plan a hunt here in 2008. How is the hunting pressure when you get a few miles back in?  Would I be better off going the first of August before they've seen several months of hunting pressure?

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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #81 on: February 13, 2007, 04:59:00 PM »
Titan,

There's not a lot of pressure at Cohutta, cause its so vast, and there wont be a 'flock' of people up there August 1st, or anytime before bowseason really.  Not that many are going to hunt or scout much due to the heat we'll still be having.

There's a lot of guys that hunt up there, and the biggest crowds will be there the 1st two weekends of bow season....and the 'flock' will come during the gun season....and most of them don't hunt very far from the road, however, the gates will be open on the Management area, so that gives them more easier access to some areas that are better left locked.

Believe me, there's plenty of room anytime you go, cept opening weekend gun season....and even then, you can go a mile or two into the Wilderness and get lost.
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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #82 on: February 13, 2007, 11:52:00 PM »
Terry,
what are the best times of the year to hunt hogs at Cohutta?  I don't mind a little heat personally, so I was entertaining the notion of just heading on down in August when small game season starts!   :D   Aside from personal discomfort, are there any pros/cons to hunting that time of year?  Are there better times of the year to hunt there?

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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #83 on: February 14, 2007, 08:46:00 AM »
OK, Terry I just got to get down to Cohutta one of these days and I would love to hunt it with you and some of the other guys. I looked at my calendar for the 3rd week end in Sept. I will just be getting back from bears in Ontario so it is out for this year. If anything happens latter in the year send me a note and I will try to make it.

One of these years I will make it.

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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #84 on: February 14, 2007, 09:39:00 AM »
Like I said earlier......I've seen more hogs in August while scouting without a bow in my hand than I have during bow season while hunting bears.

Now you can kill hogs during the small game season starting Aug 1st.....so that's is a really good time cause the critters haven't had any pressure at all for 6 months, and they will be around or close to water most likely.
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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #85 on: February 14, 2007, 01:33:00 PM »
THAT'S what I am talkin about! August first though? I looked at the regs and they still read 9/15 as the beginning of small game.  WHOO HOO!  Can't wait to do some S & M (Sweat & Mosquitos) hunting in GA in the late summer sun!  Thanks for the info Terry!

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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #86 on: February 14, 2007, 01:52:00 PM »
Matt, small game usually opens the 2nd saturday in August....the printed regs aren't available until August 1st but you should see them online around May.
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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #87 on: February 14, 2007, 03:11:00 PM »
Yeah, sorry about that...it does usually open up around the 10th-12th...somewhere around there.

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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #88 on: February 14, 2007, 06:21:00 PM »
I been watchin this thread, and have to ask Terry what your tactic is for bears? Oaks, corn fields, or can you bait in Georgia? Lastly do they run hounds for bear?

Here in eastern NC it is corn fields in Nov or MAYBE hard mast if you can find it. but mostly fields. But then you have the dog hunters to contend with, but sometimes they stir them up.

Might plan for that September hunt. Sounds like fun.

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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #89 on: February 14, 2007, 06:23:00 PM »
Yeah the gated roads would be a God send!! I cannot agree more. Gate at least some of them in my area and you would see some better still hunting.

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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #90 on: February 14, 2007, 06:59:00 PM »
Tuff hunting, but very rewarding just sighting the critters.

He's what little I know.....

Hunt white oaks....big ones.  Try and find some on a Mt. top, knoll, ridge or long slopping lead.  Personally, I haven't had as much luck hunting IN the bottoms.  I think they must work their way down, and get in the bottoms after dark.  I have had luck with major leads that end up in the bottoms.  

The bears will most likely be climbing the white oaks the 1st two weeks of the season, then gathering underneath the rest of the season.

Try your best to find white oaks with claw marks and white oak groves with lots of scat and other bear sign.  If more than one bear is using the area, then your odds of a sighting are increased dramatically.

Travel funnels between two oak groves is also a great place to set up if you can't decide which tree they are bound to hit.  Look for trails twice as wide as deer trails, and a bear trail will have a 'packed down' texture vs the crunched up of a deer trail.

Pre scouting a week or days before the season opens is much more productive than 2 weeks before.

The best tip I can give you is to hunt a single tree with lots of scat near it....BUT!!!, you must find at least one fresh pile....how fresh?  With flies on it!!!...if a pile aint got flies on it, I keep a walking.

Sparse acorn crop?...gotta wear out some boot leather to find the few trees that are producing.  Can be tuff to find, but once you do, the bears will be there.

Normal acorn crop?....sign will be easier to find since the bears are moving a lot from tree to tree, and scattered about a bit more.

If we have a drought?...and all the acorns fall just before the season?....then I don't commit to any trees or groves, I walk and walk and walk, cause the bears will not have to move for food, you will have to find them.  Walk travel routes like mentioned before, but try to walk those with known running water near by, since water will be scarce during a drought as well.

Afternoons are better than mornings, but that don't keep me from hunting mornings.  I've seen them as late as 10 am.

While walking in, pay attention to 'loud squirrels' in the trees...they may be a bear.  If so, stalk the tree from down wind, and wait for the bear to climb down.  Now, pay attention to the tree, you may need to get cross wind.  If the tree is straight with no obstructions, there's no telling where he'll climb down.  But, if the tree is leaning, or on the side of a steep ridge, or has some obstruction to one side, the bear will take the easy route down at the base.....clear from obstruction, up hill side, or least steep side if the tree is leaning. So, set up accordingly the best you can with the wind still in your favor.

The early season seems to congregate bears in higher elevations, and they work there way down in elevation, since the acorns will mature earlier up hi.  Now bear in mind, that some times there is a late freeze in the spring, so those higher elevations will be void of sign due to the buds getting nipped.  If that is the case, then move down the mountain a 1/3 of the way, and scout your way down.  However, I have seen bears low the 1st part of the season, so the higher elevation is a guideline, not written in stone.

Two weeks before the season will be the tailing end of the last 'patten' before the acorn feed, and might be tempting, but don't fall for it.  If you scout early, you will possibly find sign in berry patches, around wild cherry trees, and in dead pine groves the pine beetles devoured because of the grubs in the rotting pines. Unless you are in the highest elevations in GA, this should be what you will find.  If you are in the highest elevations, then you should find them already on the acorns unless of course there was a late freeze in that area.

Another thing to look for is saddle ridges between two tops....or connecting leads. The right ones will have a trail suddenly appear as the knoll narrows through the saddle, and then it will disappear just as quick as it nears the next knoll or lead.

Seems the bears pilfer around these ridge tops, and use the 'spines' to travel to the next 'pilfering' area.

These trails can be 100 yards long, or 1000, but the trails will be packed down, not 'crunched' up like deer trails, and wide....and, most likely, it will meander by every mature white oak along the way.

One more thing.....

If you do decide to hunt in the Morning....and you have a REALLY hot spot....don't go 'into' it while its still dark. Lay back a little distance till dawn, and ease in there.....that way you wont blow em out...and you will have the added thrill of an early morning stalk.

Be ready to not only see bears, but deer and hogs as well.  When bear hunting, I've seen more bears and hogs than deer in the GA mountains.  And don't let anyone kid you, there are 200 pound plus hogs roaming the mountains.
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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #91 on: February 15, 2007, 12:37:00 PM »
Thanks Terry, that is some great info. So what is the weather and bugs like the first of August? I assume it is not very nice..thermacell??

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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #92 on: February 15, 2007, 03:48:00 PM »
Dang Terry you left out the best part DRAGGIN THAT CRITTER OUT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #93 on: February 15, 2007, 09:57:00 PM »
okay, driving directions from Harrodsburg, KY ! whats the name of the nearest town that i can get an idea on my driving time.  thanks in advance, excellent thread!
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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #94 on: February 15, 2007, 10:34:00 PM »
HEY, that sound s like my kind of bear huntin.I tried bowhuntin bear in the TN early season this year and thought I had a good chance after finding two bunches of white oaks that were just mauled.Moved in like Terry said,just after daylight,no bear ,so took a stand to wait all day if need be.Saw 17 dogs that day,so moved to second bunch the next day,more dogs.I was heart broken,all the leg work and planning wasted because of dog hunters.If GA's bear season is dogless in the early hunt I may join ya in Sept if an invitation is open.  :saywhat:

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« Reply #95 on: February 20, 2007, 06:41:00 PM »
Ray,

Most of the time its hot.......but have worn a polar tech on opening day once.  Bugs aren't really too bad, but the thermacell should be in your back...if the skeeters aint bad, the no-seeums might be.

Randy,

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Robert,

Sure its open......c'mon down!
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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #96 on: February 20, 2007, 08:16:00 PM »
Thanx Terry,if I aint busy I might take you up on it.

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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #97 on: February 21, 2007, 07:56:00 AM »
Well,...looks like the flame blew out.....thought we might have a big crowd.

Anyone going Saturday?
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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #98 on: February 21, 2007, 10:03:00 AM »
I've got 3 native pastors from Kenya at my house this weekend so I will be ferrying them among speaking engagements at my church and other ares. Sorry, would loved to have done this but needed to step up for this one.

Looks like my next hunt will have to wait...thank God it's just 2 more weeks till Texas Sweat   :readit:
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Re: Hogs and Bears in Cohutta Wilderness Georgia - w/more pics
« Reply #99 on: February 21, 2007, 07:10:00 PM »
Boy I'd be all over this if I had the time. Bunny hunting at Shawn's this past weekend snapped me out of my winter funk. Willkeep Sept. in mind.

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