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Author Topic: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"  (Read 2133 times)

Offline LV2HUNT

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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2007, 02:51:00 PM »
Run and drop myself, but have seen on video and had others tell me about heart-lung area shots dropping a deer. From what I can tell it is because they took out one or both shoulders.

Offline Tom Leemans

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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2007, 03:19:00 PM »
He must be using exploding tipped arras.
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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2007, 03:28:00 PM »
The only way to get a deer to drop on the spot is to 1. hit the spine and paralyze him or 2. there is a spot on the shoulder blade where a big patch of nerves are. Hit that and they drop dead. Everything shuts off like a light switch. This is where most people with firearms have there deer drop on the spot. It's not the bullet itself hitting it but the shock wave being strong enough to rip those nerves up.
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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2007, 04:18:00 PM »
Double Lung run and drop.One went almost 150 yards. Perfect pass threw heart shot with arrow sticking in the ground, drop in  40 yards or less. The only drop was three different spine shots.

Offline Herdbull

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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2007, 04:28:00 PM »
The only deer I have seen that dropped from a “lung hit” was when a guy was using a compound bow with expandable broadhead shot at a yearling doe at 30 yards broad side. The arrow hit the ribs, past through into the thoracic cavity and some how deflected upward striking the spine. The doe dropped and died nearly instantly without kicking etc.

So , I guess it was more than just a simple lung shot. Not much blood on the ground either with one hole exp-BH .

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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2007, 04:34:00 PM »
I vote the run and drop as well.  12 years or so back, I was shooting wheels, and shot a late season doe from about 12 yards.  The old jennings didn't spit em out too fast- but she was quiet.  Hit the doe tight behind the front shoulder and low- taking out the heart with a rocky mtn razor.  She literally took one step, turned her head to see was was making the noise on the ground- just like pulling the drain plug.  She looked at the blood and it took all of 15-20 seconds, one step, and she fell over dead.  My shortest blood trail ever......
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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2007, 05:07:00 PM »
Run, really fast most of the time.  I did have one just stand there once.

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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2007, 05:13:00 PM »
With broadheads run and drop, once with a 30/06 she dropped, with slugs and conicals always run and drop unless spine was encountered.  I've seen their hearts turned to spaggetti and still run 60 yards.

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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2007, 05:23:00 PM »
The only deer I have ever shot that "dropped" on the spot were spine shot, all others ran or walked away.......


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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2007, 05:30:00 PM »
Even when I gun hunted often, only a spine or neck shot put them on the ground immediately.  I have double lung shot at least 4 deer with a 12 gauge and they all ran around 20-30 yards.

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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2007, 06:03:00 PM »
run and drop.
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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2007, 07:08:00 PM »
Run and drop.

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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2007, 07:13:00 PM »
I shot a big doe one time at 10 yards that hopped once and started looking around like, "What happened?".  Then she blew once, and continued to stand there.  Then she started to get wobbly and fell over.  She was 3 yards from my arrow in the dirt.

I had a friend shoot a buck at 39 yards that he said never moved after the hit.  Double lunged him and he stood there for probably 10 seconds and then just fell over.

On both of these examples, upon examination during cleaning, no bone was hit on entry or exit.  The arrows entered between two ribs and exited between ribs.  I think the lack of "impact" had something to do with the deer's reaction.

Out of approximately 235 bow killed deer that I have the information on, these were the only two instances where the deer didn't seem to react to being shot.

So I say run and drop.   :thumbsup:
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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2007, 07:28:00 PM »
Thanks for all the feed back....
The friend in Question has to be takin with a grain of salt, some lime and a shot....
    The same person argued that a 50cal round was bigger than a 20MM shell....  :knothead:
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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2007, 07:46:00 PM »
Never had one drop instantly unless the spinal cord was involved. I have seen many hits where the only reaction was a couple jumps to put space between where the hit occured, and where they stop
to survey the situation... and down they go.

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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2007, 07:58:00 PM »
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Originally posted by mike g:

    The same person argued that a 50cal round was bigger than a 20MM shell....   :knothead:  
:biglaugh:    :biglaugh:

 
I think everyone knows someone like that.   "[dntthnk]"
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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2007, 08:14:00 PM »
Lol - well, 50 is bigger than 20 isn't it?  Perhaps he would trade you a few 20 dollar bills for some 50 cent pieces as well.

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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2007, 08:37:00 PM »
Run and drop!

My BS detector went off as soon as I read that ALL of his deer dropped at the shot.
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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2007, 08:50:00 PM »
Run and drop in my experiences.
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Re: "Drop or Run aways and Drop"
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2007, 06:27:00 AM »
The only deer I've ever have drop on the spot to an arrow were spined...

Probably 80% of the deer I've taken with a rifle or handgun ran for aways after the hit as well...
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