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Offline nhbuck1

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tip weight practice
« on: June 29, 2016, 02:17:00 PM »
ok so how do guys practice with different head weights? do you stick to just one weight? obviously the arrow drop will be different for your brain to calibrate, im used to a 200 head so i go down to 175 im shooting high is this normal?
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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2016, 02:32:00 PM »
That is normal , especially with the heavier heads .
If you are at like 125  gr and go to 145gr you won't notice much difference .
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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2016, 02:39:00 PM »
I hunt with 180gr Broadheads, so my practice arrows have 190 gr field points.

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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2016, 02:56:00 PM »
OK so from 200 to 175 you can notice? So what should I do just practice with what I want to hunt with?
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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2016, 03:10:00 PM »
When I bought my new arrows I got some 175's and 200's. I couldn't really tell a difference between the 2 so I shoot the 200's. When I got ready to buy broadheads I just bought 200 grain heads (VPA 3 blades) and they fly just like my field tips. But for me the difference was not noticeable.

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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2016, 06:07:00 PM »
I don't notice any difference, either...  200 vs 175.  I thought that I would, so I bought some 20gr adapter....  Not needed so far!

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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2016, 09:59:00 PM »
For me, i keep it simple. Hunting and 3D arrows are very close to same weight.

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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2016, 11:16:00 PM »
My current setups range from 100 gn tip weights to 350 gn.

The actual hunting setup commands the base line which maintains a finely tuned 25 yard point-on  which I generalize as my effective hunting range during ideal conditions for deer sized quarry. All my lighter hot setups  are tuned to share the same point on and site windows from 25 yards in. During the actual hunting shot situation, the naturally engrained site window is personally ideal.
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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2016, 11:22:00 PM »
I don't shoot point on or anything, I shoot instinctive so my brain has to recalibrate on a lighter head.
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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2016, 10:41:00 AM »
nhbuck1, I notice very little difference at 20 yds and closer. Once I get over 20yds, out 40 and 50 there will be enough difference to cause a miss.

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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2016, 10:54:00 AM »
anything over or under 30 grains and I don't notice. by 50 grains I can see the change. in the arrow tune not just the drop rate. that has to do with the slower speed of the arrow.
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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2016, 11:19:00 AM »
So your saying the further away you are shooting you will see the difference?
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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2016, 11:45:00 AM »
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Originally posted by nhbuck1:
So your saying the further away you are shooting you will see the difference?
Yes, for the exact same reason as with bullets of different weights:    Projectile/Bullet drop

If our eyes were keener and our shooting more consistent, we'd see the difference at shorter distances as well. But it really becomes evident as the distance to target impact increases.

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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2016, 12:30:00 PM »
So your saying practice with what I want to hunt with?
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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2016, 12:39:00 PM »
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So your saying practice with what I want to hunt with?
Yes, that is what many (most) of us do. It's actually the original reason for the existence of field points, i.e., to serve as stand-ins for broadheads during practice.

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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2016, 06:50:00 PM »
The purpose of my varied setups is there is absolutely no recalculation for my effective hunting range. Aiming method is a mute point.

Typically, don't see any variation requiring a nock adjustment at 20 yards until the point weight variation approaches 100 gns for a tuned arrow. A 100 gn variation will contribute to more vertical variation on lighter bows.
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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2016, 04:01:00 PM »
I shoot same weight field tips as broadheads all year round. I want my practice to prepare me for hunting.
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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2016, 09:09:00 AM »
Like AZ Longbow, I don't notice a difference unless it's pretty substantial, like 50 grains. I do all my practicing with 135 judos and hunt mostly with 125, 145, and 160 Snuffers. Out to 30 yards the difference is negligible. Same can be said for my wood shafts. Right now I have two sets of 6 arrows that are 90 grains apart in weight, and I can barely tell the difference. Spine is critical, weight is not.
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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2016, 01:04:00 AM »
I am always amazed by the way my brain will take over if I let it...I once finished up shooting an indoor 3D match with only 2 arrows, one a 415 grain carbon and the other a 650 grain 2317...I shot well enough to beat one compound shooter...these days I often shoot Easton A/C Injexions for 3D...I have 175 and 200 grain points and consider those arrows to be completely interchangable...which reminds me I still have one lost in my yard...check the price on an A/C Injexion with an Abowyer field point and you will realize why I really ought to find that arrow

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Re: tip weight practice
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2016, 04:42:00 AM »
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Originally posted by maineac:
I shoot same weight field tips as broadheads all year round. I want my practice to prepare me for hunting.
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