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Author Topic: Standard for testing trad bow  (Read 733 times)

Offline bowfanatik

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Standard for testing trad bow
« on: July 24, 2016, 04:22:00 AM »
Hi guys
Do we have some standard for testing bow ?

If we have , please post source or document

Thanks
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Offline dbd870

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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2016, 07:20:00 AM »
I don't understand what you are asking?
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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2016, 07:41:00 AM »
I asked for standard ,rules...how to measure bow speed ?

It must be a rule ! 50#@28 arrow 9gpp or something like that
     


Because this is really funny , look at gpp , just to get high speed
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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2016, 07:44:00 AM »
I agree. A rather confusing question.
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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2016, 08:09:00 AM »
Blacky Scwartz (sp) has tested with 9 gpp for years, on around 50# bows.

So I'm guessing that would be about as much a standard as there is.

Pete Ward also does some testing/reviews.
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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2016, 08:12:00 AM »
Yesb, I know that . But we have IBO rule 70# , 30" draw length ,5 gpp . Is that only rules , standard ?
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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2016, 08:15:00 AM »
I would think the IBO rule would apply more to wheel bows, I sure wouldn't want to shoot my bows at 30" and 5 gpp. I may be wrong tho...
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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2016, 08:19:00 AM »
Agree with you ! But do we have some similar rule for trad bow , established from some legitimate organization
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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2016, 08:22:00 AM »
Not that I'm aware of, but I'm not always up on that stuff.
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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2016, 08:24:00 AM »
Ok Kenny , thanks

I will wait , more gangers to reply
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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2016, 08:59:00 AM »
IBO/AMO(ATA)standard is more or less for wheelies (who shoots 5gpp on a trad. longbow or recurve?).
I'm also not aware of a speed test standards especially for trad. bows.
Be carefull with Bodniks speed measurements,It's marketing vs. reality!
There is also a trend over the pond using lighter arrows for a flatter trajectory.
Most of the newbies do not hunt and want a good result as quickly as possible. They won't spend as much time as it needs and they thought with a flatter trajectory it's easier to get good results. Many try to compensate the lack of knowledge over the material which will works for a while but not in the end. They have no time to learn from the ground.
It's like: Whereis the machine who can do it for me to get better? It's a phenomenon of our modern society.
The "Bow Hunter Recurve league" in my country has nothing to do with bowhunting equipment anymore.
Sorry, I'm drifting let's get back to topic.

I think a good standard is as Kenny wrote 50#@28" and 9gpp to compare.
Like Blacky and Pete does and most of my buddies!

But anyway, I am more interested how fast my bow is with my personal specifications.
I'm drawing 31", so it is not from interest for me how fast my bow is @28".

just my2cents
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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2016, 09:55:00 AM »
I don't know of any rules either.  Seems the holy grail as far as speed goes was 200fps at 10 grains per pound at 28".  I don't recall anyone hitting those numbers except with hot rod type bows but, I could be all wet and usually am. LOL

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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2016, 11:00:00 AM »
Yes, we have an "accepted" standard for comparisons--the IBO/ATA and the old AMO.

IBO) 5 gpp at 30" draw, 70# bow.

The old AMO) 9 gpp at 28" draw

I don't think many of the compound companies even reference the old AMO standard any more.

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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2016, 11:02:00 AM »
Thanks Jim!!
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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2016, 12:21:00 PM »
Speed/performance will also be affected by things like strings, silencers, nock fit, shooting machine vs. fingers, tuning, arrow matched to the bow, etc.

We have a standard for strings/bow length measurements, but it seems that more ignore it than follow it.  Frustrating for sure.

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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2016, 12:30:00 PM »
Of course is frustrating ! How to comapre 5 different longbows ?! To buy all and then ?
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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2016, 12:58:00 PM »
AMO standart is 9gpp at 30", not 28"
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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2016, 01:01:00 PM »
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How to comapre 5 different longbows ?! To buy all and then ?
Other than going by opinions on message boards, unless you can attend tournaments or rendezvous where you can shoot them...yes.

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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2016, 01:04:00 PM »
Unfortunately, data from a test does not cover what I feel is most important in a bow. I value a smooth draw, vibration free release, and a comfortable grip far more than fps or a curve on a graph.
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Re: Standard for testing trad bow
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2016, 01:07:00 PM »
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Originally posted by hybridbow hunter:
AMO standart is 9gpp at 30", not 28"
I stand corrected.  It was/is indeed, 9gpp at 30" draw with a 60# bow.

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