Simmons sharks

[Jayb]

Charlie I tried that a couple on times and I get nothing.  Wondering why
Thanks

[frank bullitt]

I also shoot Jim's Centaur big game head..
A round chainsaw file and eze diamond rod works great!

When honing and touch up with the rod, I stand it up and lightly push the head from tip first down the rod to back of head.

I have Jim's wheel system.... Still in the box. I need to give em a whirl!

[wapiti]

"I have Jim's wheel system.... Still in the box. I need to give em a whirl!"- DO IT! I have been using this a long time before Jim has been offering them on his website. Greatest sharpening device yet from broadheads to hatchets to knives. What I LOVE is this set up will quickly put and edge on even the hardest knife materials very quickly. Once you learn how to judge the angle you want it is easy and FAST (hint: use a reference point like the grinders arbor). I put mine on a regular buffer from HF Tools.

[frank bullitt]

Hey Kent,  I hear ya.

But when something works,  hard to change!

[Charlie Lamb]

Jayb... you should be tipping the head at a pretty stiff angle when pulling it through the wheels. I usually put the thumb from the hand that is holding the RADA against the closest wheel which keeps both of them stationary.

You should be able to feel the wheels cutting and even see metal "shavings" coming off the head.

Once you get it to the point that the edge feels sharp hone it on a ceramic stick or diamond stick.
I can easily get them to shave with this system

It's about the easiest way to get an edge on a curved edge like the Simmons.

For straight edge heads I prefer the KME and I've heard Ron has come up with a way to do the Simmons. If so it would be fool proof.

[ProAlpine]

I've used the Jewel Stick. It takes a long time but works.

What I'm disappointed in is the noise my Land Sharks make while in flight. They sound like little missiles being fired. I think it has to do with the vents cut out in the design. Way noisier than my basic 3:1 design broad heads.

[DanielB89]

Originally posted by Charlie Lamb:
This simple and inexpensive ($5-$6) tool will give you a great edge very quickly. A crock stick to finish and you are good to go.
   

this is very true, but I can't EVER get them to work on it.  

Pat Kelly(pdk25) is crazy good at sharpening the simmons heads on one of these Rada wheels.  He needs to do a "how to" for the rada wheel.  **HINT HINT**

[NBK]

Originally posted by Charlie Lamb:
Jayb... you should be tipping the head at a pretty stiff angle when pulling it through the wheels. I usually put the thumb from the hand that is holding the RADA against the closest wheel which keeps both of them stationary.

You should be able to feel the wheels cutting and even see metal "shavings" coming off the head.

Once you get it to the point that the edge feels sharp hone it on a ceramic stick or diamond stick.
I can easily get them to shave with this system

It's about the easiest way to get an edge on a curved edge like the Simmons.

For straight edge heads I prefer the KME and I've heard Ron has come up with a way to do the Simmons. If so it would be fool proof.

Yep.  Took Charlie's advice on this a couple of years ago and can get them plenty sharp now.  If you're having difficulties with brand new heads you may want to check the initial grind and knock that down with a round file.  Once the edge is established the Rada is real easy.

[J. Cook]

I too use the RADA and have had good success getting them sharp.  The real key for me was "Stropping" them on my thigh wearing heavy weight khaki's or jeans.  The curved edge worked better on my leg that had some "give" as opposed to a stropping board.  That took them to the next level for me.

[DanielB89]

Originally posted by Charlie Lamb:
Jayb... you should be tipping the head at a pretty stiff angle when pulling it through the wheels. I usually put the thumb from the hand that is holding the RADA against the closest wheel which keeps both of them stationary.

You should be able to feel the wheels cutting and even see metal "shavings" coming off the head.

Once you get it to the point that the edge feels sharp hone it on a ceramic stick or diamond stick.
I can easily get them to shave with this system

It's about the easiest way to get an edge on a curved edge like the Simmons.

For straight edge heads I prefer the KME and I've heard Ron has come up with a way to do the Simmons. If so it would be fool proof.

Charlie,

pictures are worth a thousand word.     please help me out with this!  i bought the Rada at your suggestions a couple years back and just couldn't get them any where close to where I was wanting.  I am going hog hunting this weekend, so i would much rather learn to do it in 5 mins on the rada than 10+ with the jewel stick.