Trying hard to get into Trad!

[Michael Arnette]

I highly recommend Rick welch materials

[maineac]

I also second Jeff Kavanagh and Moebow.  I use both with my archery club at school.  Here are some links to their channels on yotube.

Jeff Kavanagh
 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgGoY0qpH8f11COXWkE8aLQ

Arne Moe
 

Wolfie
 https://www.youtube.com/user/Wolfiesairbrush

Keep at it!

[Mr. fingers]

May be you could give us an outline of your equipment. I know you said you shoot a 45lb. Samick Sage. What's your draw length. And what arrow combo are you using? Form and,style goes,out the window if your equipment isn't right.

[David Mitchell]

Aaron lives only about 30-40 minutes at the most from me and we have connected.  We'll be getting together soon and figure out some stuff.       I'm glad he didn't hesitate to post his situation. Guys, thanks for the great responses. As usual, TradGangers prove to be a great bunch of people.

[Petrichor]

Hey this is family. We look out for our own.

[elkhunter45]

Don't give up Aaron! I think your 400's may be too stiff for your set up. That is real close to what I shoot out of a 50# recurve. I would put another 50 grains up front and check your flight. You can get some 225, 250, and 300 field points in a kit from 3 Rivers. Good luck

[David Mitchell]

By the way, Aaron, you mentioned that you think you may be short drawing since you draw 27 1/2 on your trad bow but 29" on the compound.  It is normal to loose a bit of draw length when going from compound to recurve or longbow. An inch or more is not unusual at all. Look forward to getting together soon.

[304Aaron]

Thanks again to all of you! I have some heavier points, I'll try that and see how it works. Thanks!

[Captain*Kirk]

Aaron, a +3 on Jeff Kavanagh (You Tube) and as a  (recently returned to ) trad shooter, I know what you are going through. I'm only a PM away and will be happy to help and advise any way I can.
I'm serious...any questions, please don't hesitate.

[Bladepeek]

I think with the offers for help above, you will see some serious improvement. The other thing to keep in mind is that accuracy in trad archery is going to take time to develop. If you are used to seeing all your arrows go into the same hole with compound and sights, it will be discouraging at first to see your groups huge in comparison. Don't beat yourself up too badly  

[Cyclic-Rivers]

I've been in your shoes.  Its rough, fortunately for me, I was able to get hooked up with a great bunch pretty early.

I agree with Elk hunter.  Your arrows are too stiff. That is a  huge part of your frustrations. I would try putting at least 100 grains more up front or move to a 500 spined (not spline) shaft.

As far as arrows go, I bet an email or private message into Big Jim (sponsor here) and he would be able to get you arrows close to what you need.  He has blems in stock which will save on the wallet.

Out of my 45 lb bows, I shoot 500 spined shafts. they are cut to 29 3/4 with 225 grains up front. If you cut your arrows shorter, it stiffens them and you will need more weight up front to bring the spine back down.

There is a big difference between compounds and Trad because compounds are usually center shot and allow for more flexibility in spines plus you shoot with a mechanical release which also allows for more flexibility.

Get proper arrow flight then work on Form.  With stiff arrows, your arrow bounce off the shelf and fly all over.

Good luck, dont give up and ask questions, thats partly why we are here.

[KentuckyTJ]

The 400's are too stiff for your setup. The 500's will be much better.

[trad_bowhunter1965]

Originally posted by Fletcher:
I would recommend attending a shooting clinic like those by Rod Jenkins or Fred Asbell.  Master of the Barebow videos are great, too.

DITTO
I bought the Master of the barebow series and Rod Jenkins is on them very helpful.

[David Mitchell]

I have some 500 spine that Aaron can try before he buys.  We plan to get together soon.  Also have wood, aluminum, in various spines.