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Author Topic: What glue for inserts in carbon  (Read 732 times)

Offline Mitch Edwards

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What glue for inserts in carbon
« on: August 18, 2016, 09:43:00 PM »
Having trouble keeping brass insert to stay in gold tip shafts. Been using hot melt. Tried douco and it's not much better. Everything sticks to the brass but not the carbon. Thought bout just plane old super glue but would like to be able to take them out if need be. Any thoughts? Oh and all my broadheads will be on adapters so I can adjust them there just would like to be able to remove inserts should I need to.

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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2016, 11:40:00 AM »
What type of hot melt? could try scuffing up the inside of the shaft with a little light sandpaper then cleaning the dust out with denatured alcohol.

Big jim sells a really good hotmelt
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Offline Mitch Edwards

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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2016, 11:52:00 AM »
I think what I have is Bohning but i cant swaer to it. Ill try the sand paper trick. May end up going to Big Jim for glue if the sand paper alone dont do it. Thanks

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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2016, 12:13:00 PM »
I use original gorilla glue (the brown stuff).  It expands and creates a great seal.  I've never had a failure when using Gorilla Glue.
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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2016, 12:24:00 PM »
Many folks here recommend Big Jim's hot melt. I use for for tuning shafts but for final assembly I use "golf shaft" epoxy. Downside to it is once them inserts are in they an'it coming out. You want a glue that when cured it will absorb the shock of arrow hitting hard stuff.
I prep shafts by ruffling up inside with a .30 cal bore brush. Then swab out with acetone. I also wipe inserts with acetone.

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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2016, 12:38:00 PM »
I have found Insert Iron to be very reliable.
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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2016, 12:55:00 PM »
I prep like M60 does including the acetone.  I tried several hot melts including Big Jim's but was getting the occasional failure so switched to JB Weld.  I will say that Big Jim's was the best of the hot melts but not up to the apparent punishment I put my shafts through.  JB Weld has held up great.
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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2016, 01:15:00 PM »
Big Jims hot melt. No doubt! I also scour the inside of shaft with gun cleaning brush n then clean.
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Offline Caughtandhobble

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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2016, 03:56:00 PM »
I use Big Jim's glue as well. I believe the secret to the brass inserts is burn off the coating that is on them from the factory.

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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2016, 04:20:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Longtoke:
What type of hot melt? could try scuffing up the inside of the shaft with a little light sandpaper then cleaning the dust out with denatured alcohol.

Big jim sells a really good hotmelt
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x2, correct preparation makes a difference. Light scuff and CLEAN will bond. Love the Big Jim hot glue.
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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2016, 04:36:00 PM »
I use easton quick bond.  It works extremely well, and sets up pretty quickly.
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Offline Mike Faith

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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2016, 08:46:00 PM »
I scuff the inside of the shaft and the insert with sandpaper, clean both with acetone and then use jb weld epoxy, have never had one pull out...
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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2016, 09:03:00 PM »
A key point here is that he wants to be able to take them out. Epoxy, JB Weld - they are great for permanent, but I also want to be able to remove the insert if necessary. I use alcohol rather than acetone as some carbon manufacturers say the acetone will cause the fibers to separate.

I have yet to have an insert pull out with Big Jim's hot melt. The important thing is not to get it too hot, get the surfaces clean and I really don't think you will have any problems.
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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2016, 09:05:00 PM »
Big Jims hands down, no issues.
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Offline Saguache

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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2016, 12:39:00 AM »
Insert Iron and skip the prep, It's pretty much irreversible but you'll never have another insert  come out(even if you want it out).Hot melt can be good if you prep correctly, but never quite as good as the permanent bonding glues like jb weld or insert iron.

Offline Arctic Hunter

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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2016, 12:54:00 AM »
I use the glue sticks from the crafts section at Walmart. Very inexpensive an Ive never pulled one out.
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Offline Mitch Edwards

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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2016, 02:27:00 AM »
I really like the idea of a bore brush or roughing up the inside of the shaft. Seems like I've read that before but definitely guna give it a shot since I've got plenty of them

Offline Bigjackfish

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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2016, 04:53:00 AM »
I use Big Jims hot melt on all my arrows clean inside of arrow and the insert with acetone.Never had one come out,have glued alum and brass inserts in with hot melt.

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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2016, 10:42:00 AM »
Which adhesive you use is not nearly as important as the surface preparation of the shaft.

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Re: What glue for inserts in carbon
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2016, 11:43:00 AM »
Big Jim's hot melt.
But what creekwood said is the key, surface prep.
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