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Author Topic: Single bevel observation  (Read 1025 times)

Offline TURKEYFOOTGIRL

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Single bevel observation
« on: September 24, 2016, 06:40:00 PM »
So i accidentally shot a couple does with a right wing single bevel treeshark while using left wing feathers. Both does were hit good and penetration was great. I really dont think the spinning force of the feathers is even remotely close to the twisting force of the broadhead penetrating. I say if you got single bevels shoot w confidence. If a 2 inch head can do it easily a one inch head wont even know it switched rotation upon impact.
   
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Offline old_goat2

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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2016, 07:15:00 PM »
Cool to know! I didn't even know Simmons was making a single bevel model! Or did you modify them?
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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2016, 07:49:00 PM »
Holy cow!

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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2016, 07:57:00 PM »
Looks like it gets the job done .
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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2016, 09:36:00 PM »
Looks like the same hole a regular ol double bevel tree shark makes.....Its a conspiracy I tell Ya.    :eek:
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Offline dbd870

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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2016, 09:39:00 PM »
Good hole
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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2016, 10:45:00 PM »
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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2016, 11:47:00 PM »
Interesting. Thanks for the post

Offline TURKEYFOOTGIRL

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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2016, 12:55:00 AM »
Simmons will single bevel custom upon order.
I just always worried about correct bevel and its confusing which way they go if you dont use them often. Very devestating hole as is usually the case with Treesharks.
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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2016, 09:03:00 AM »
I used "wrong" bevel the first year (2010) I hunted with single bevel. Killed two deer with em. Now that I "know better" I keep feather wing and bevel matched.

I agree though, as soon as that broadhead begins to enter the deer the feathers are just along for the ride.

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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2016, 11:17:00 AM »
There will be energy lost when the arrow changes its rotation, but I'm sure it doesn't amount to a hill of beans on a whitetail. Dr. Ashby's broadhead testing on asiatic buffalo found that having the bevel and fletching in the same orientation penetrates better. So if your arrow can penetrate 20" vs 18" and a broadside whitetail is 9-10" are you gonna notice?

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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2016, 01:23:00 PM »
Edge bevel is all the way down the list in the #10 spot if bone isn't hit, so I'm not surprised at all that you had good penetration with   good shot placement even mixing bevels/wings.

Considering a bone breach, that moves this factor WAY up the list. "For example, a left single bevel broadhead trying to rotate counterclockwise upon impact would have to overcome the momentum of right wing feathers rotating the shaft the opposite way."

Remember the top of a doe's humerus about the same size and density as those buffalo ribs, and it's VERY close to the kill zone on an animal that often ducks or spins.

I'm glad you've had success so far, but if I were you I'd reflectch with right wing. It wouldn't be worth wounding a single animal in the future for something that would be so easy to fix now.
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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2016, 01:34:00 PM »
Have many of you been successful with single bevel tree sharks?  The optimum single bevel head has a 3/1 length to width ratio so I dont know how well that would work with tree sharks but I shoot them exclusively and would like to know if Im missing out on even more devastation. Tree sharks are absolutely unreal. I believe they are the absolute best broadhead on the planet for deer, bear, and hog sized game. I even read about a guy that shoots them exclusively for elk and has never had one not pass through.

Personally, Ive killed deer, bear, and pigs with them and have never lost a critter with one except one bear that I shoulder shot.

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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2016, 05:24:00 PM »
In my opinion the bonus of the single bevel is lost on a head that big because it aint gonna split bone. The smaller single bevels will. A tree shark is a surprising for penetration. I love the grizzly at low poundage because it does cut an s and the single bevel is much easier for me to sharpen. Simmons don`t need an S cut because the blood will be pouring. RC

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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2016, 06:36:00 PM »
Left bevel vs right bevel isnt even on my list.  Both combos have never failed me.

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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2016, 07:38:00 PM »
That is a big hole!

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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2016, 08:23:00 PM »
Those Simmons heads look amazing! I'm hesitant to try them since I am only shooting 45lbs but the exit wounds look intense! The single bevel grizzly I'm using now is doing a bang-up job so why switch though right!?!

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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2016, 09:05:00 PM »
You can't argue with that success. Curious could the wind on the bevel effect flight as in trying to slow or stop the rotation caused by the feathers. It seems like if they were the same it would help rotation in flight as well as in penetration. It probably don't make much difference unless your set up is marginally tuned.  When I need to buy heads I will try the single bevels.    Ken

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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2016, 10:45:00 PM »
Either way those Simmons are a fantastic broadheads!!!! Nice doe    :thumbsup:
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Re: Single bevel observation
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2016, 07:43:00 AM »
Doesn't take em long to bleed out through a hole like that..........
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