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Author Topic: Help me beat target panic  (Read 427 times)

Offline Arctic Hunter

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Help me beat target panic
« on: October 04, 2016, 03:40:00 PM »
Okay tradgang,

I've got target panic bad lately and I'm standing here staring at mechanical Broadheads wondering if I should just go back to wheels and a release.

I've owned most of the books and videos. Joel Turner's video helped a lot for a long time.....Until lately. It's not a premature release, but more of an anticipation of the shot (feather touching my chin is my psycho trigger). When the feather touches, or when I know it's about to, it's like someone drive stuns me with a tazer. This is extremely inconvenient since the season has started.

I thought about a grip sear...but I dot want to screw anything into the riser of my widow.

Any suggestions?
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Offline huskyarcher

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Re: Help me beat target panic
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2016, 03:45:00 PM »
Blind bale, only shoot 1 arrow at time. Those two things help me rushing and anticipating the shot more than anything. If Joel Turners stuff helped you before, maybe give it another look?

Keep slinging them and remember, most of your shots will probably under 15 yards anyway if youre like me at least.

Good luck!
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Offline fnshtr

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Re: Help me beat target panic
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2016, 03:47:00 PM »
Lots of good advice and discussion on the "shooter's forum". Probably best to post your request over there.

Good luck. Don't give up!
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Offline ron w

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Re: Help me beat target panic
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2016, 04:00:00 PM »
Your not alone.........it can get better but it never goes away. Like said above, one arrow at a time and focus. Talk yourself thru every aspect of the shot......you can do it!!!
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Offline Bowwild

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Re: Help me beat target panic
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2016, 04:06:00 PM »
You must get your mind focused on processes AFTER aiming.  This means once you've come to anchor and aim, forget aiming and let your mind do it without your thinking.  You focus on moving your drawing arm scapula a fraction which will trigger relaxation of the drawing hand/fingers and the string drops.

You'll know if you have it if your drawing hand reflexively "paints your face" This means the drawing hand slides along your face, under your ear. The thumb of the drawing hand will end up on or near the shoulder at the conclusion of follow through.

By the way, if you are keeping your bow arm muscles active (pushing) the bow arm will move towards the target and then fall down and to the side. It will NOT stay motionless until the arrow hits the target. Trying to keep the bow arm up until the arrow hits the target is a myth and promotes collapsing of the bow arm shoulder.

More than 2.4 million students were taught this process last school year using a simple loop of non-elastic string. I recommend you make this "String Bow" and practice the process. Then "pretend" your bow is the loop of string.

Bottom line,  you need to override the process that led you to target panic by learning a better one.  I had TP increasingly worse from about 1983 to 1995. I switched to LH shooting which fixed it immediately.  Of course I had to learn why TP happens to prevent it from reoccurring on the left side.

Now I can shoot RH or LH because I'm focused on process not results. Results are a nice by-product of process thinking.

By the way, none of the tricks suggested during that 8-9 year period of TP worked for me; blind bales, closed eyes, drawing for days without hours, drawing for days with arrow nocked by no shooting, etc. I'd always think I was "cured" and then start shooting. It only took 2-3 arrows (if that) and TP was back.

PROCESS INSTEAD OF RESULTS IS THE KEY.

You can buy ($13.50) a DVD by Tim Strickland at the NASP® store:
 http://naspschools.org/product/?id=8

On this DVD famous Olympic Medalist Denise Parker and Tim (Olympic coach) describe the "Eleven Steps to Archery Success".

Good luck!

Offline Shadowhnter

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Re: Help me beat target panic
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2016, 04:28:00 PM »
Shooting too much, too long of sessions will kill you. Few arrows at a time, or even better, Use 1 arrow, for a limited amount of time.

Make yourself count to 2 before you release EVERY shot. Its mind over matter now.

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Re: Help me beat target panic
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2016, 04:53:00 PM »
I would consider this a mind over matter scenario if the matter wasn't the mind in the first place. Arctic Hunter- RELAX.  You're not relearning how to operate your bow and you KNOW how to shoot already.  Relax and shoot.  Anxiety to target panic is like gasoline to a fire.
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Re: Help me beat target panic
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2016, 05:14:00 PM »
I won't hark on this. While the "threat" of TP is always lurking, it CAN be made to go away and be banished from your shot. You have to know that success is achievable to keep working.

Sadly, I think most people who get TP never tame it, let alone get rid of it.

I only offer this to encourage. Not to be contrary.

I've seen people who LOVE archery and who give a lot back to it, get TP.  Many of us love archery here. Imagine loving it (archery) so much and then having it taken away by the wrong frame of mind.

Some people are more prone to get it than others. I think folks who are more laid back and go with the flow (both great traits, I'm sure) are less likely to get it.

This thread is probably not long for this forum.  However, in my opinion, target panic is a far greater threat to the majority of traditional (all actually) archers than any anti-hunter group has ever been.

I've had adults (usually male) in teacher trainings who don't want to shoot any more arrows than the training requires....UNTIL they get get their mind off the target and on a new shooting process (sequence to some).  

Target panic begins when the archer shoots an arrow that misses the "spot" for no apparent reason,  and here's the important part...and then feels bad about it.  

When this happens your subconscious begins hatching excuses for you to miss such as not getting to full-draw, not able to properly aim, not being able to stay at anchor, etc. Those who use sights generally can't bring the pin to the intended spot, stopping above or below.

I know, some will think we're making it (shooting the bow) too complicated...they say look, shoot, repeat. Don't overthink. Essentially, these folks are correct.  Those who get TP were/are thinking too much, wrongly.  But some of us can't help it. Some are Type A personalities and this is the way they (we) tick.

Sorry, this is a serious problem for thousands and will run them out of the sport...it already has for many.  Some terrific instructors have or have had TP, and I feel for them.

I'll cut it out now.

Offline Trumpkin the Dwarf

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Re: Help me beat target panic
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2016, 06:21:00 PM »
Step 1. Relax. Deep breath. Smile!
Step 2. Read McDave's thread in the shooters  form forum, it may hit home.
Step 3. Relax! It's an anxiety game. You'll beat it best by learning to address the stress itself.

(that's all just my 2 cents)
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Offline Daz

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Re: Help me beat target panic
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2016, 06:49:00 PM »
If you have been using Joel's style of training, go back to the basics of the verbal steps. If you are completing each step of the shot cycle with the verbal cueing, the fletching touching your nose SHOULD NOT trigger the shot.

Slow the shot sequence down and name each step.
Mine for example is "Draw, settle, anchor, focus,expand...".

The anchor command occurs when my two point touch anchor is obtained. My brain does not allow expansion (to release) until focus is steady. Say it out loud as you go.

Start with draw. Then move to next step. Only move on in sequence when you have mastered control over previous steps. It may take several sessions before you get to "expand". If this is the case it may be several sessions before you release an arrow. That's ok. Control of the shot means control over all aspects of the shot.
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Offline Michael Arnette

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Re: Help me beat target panic
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2016, 06:51:00 PM »
Have you tried a gap method of shooting? Not my cup of tea but it might help. I'd go with Bowwilds advice though

Offline Caleb Monroe

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Re: Help me beat target panic
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2016, 07:35:00 PM »
Are you saying your mantra? Focus on the movement and not the trigger.

On another note you can use a zip tie wrapped around the handle just cut the end leaving enough to press against as a grip sear.

I would really think about the why it no longer works.
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Re: Help me beat target panic
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2016, 07:39:00 PM »
I'm not sure what's going on but lately this powwow has become some type of a Dumping Ground for shooting forum threads which belong on the shooters forum.... no foul no harm let's just post all these on the shooting forum please that's what it's there for
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