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Author Topic: Bows cut past 3/16" center  (Read 1161 times)

Offline DanielB89

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Bows cut past 3/16" center
« on: October 31, 2016, 09:39:00 AM »
I am wondering who makes a bow that is a true 3/16" past center.  I have recently acquired a morrison ILF wood riser and it is cut far enough past center that the arrow is going straight through the center of the limbs.  I have found this to be the most forgiving bow i've ever shot.  I can shoot anything from a .500 to a .340 and get the same POI with broadheads and fieldtips.  If anyone has ever read any of my posts, most of them are about how much tuning sucks and this bow has made it a breeze.  

Wondering who else makes one like this?
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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2016, 09:43:00 AM »
Blacktail, Black Widow, and A&H all do.

I personally think they all should be cut 3/16" past center!

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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2016, 09:46:00 AM »
Another note. I have personally seen other bows that were advertised to be cut 3/16" past center, but they absolutely were not.  Pretty disappointing when that is something that you look for in a bow, and the bowyer doesn't get it right.

Offline DanielB89

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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2016, 09:51:00 AM »
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Another note. I have personally seen other bows that were advertised to be cut 3/16" past center, but they absolutely were not.  Pretty disappointing when that is something that you look for in a bow, and the bowyer doesn't get it right.
Allen,
I agree!  May sound picky, but after this experience, I want all my bows to have the arrow going straight through the center of the bow.  

I have NEVER been able to shoot a 500 spine from a bow over #50.  This bow is over #50 at my 29.5" draw and i'm shooting a .500 spine arrow with a 50 grain brass insert and a 175 grain tip.  Absolutely  blows my mind.
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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2016, 10:41:00 AM »
I believe my Hitman bow is?
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~ Black Widow Bows 66" PLX Longbow 47.5@31"  161fps with 600gr arrow
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Offline bear bowman

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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2016, 10:56:00 AM »
This is going to sound like a dumb question but, how do you measure this?

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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2016, 12:12:00 PM »
Acadian Woods are cut to 3/16 past center.
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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2016, 12:33:00 PM »
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This is going to sound like a dumb question but, how do you measure this?
I measure mine with an arrow.  When I nock the arrow, I want it going absolutely perfectly through the middle of the bow, limbs, and string.  You can also roughly estimate this by lining your string up straight through the center of the limbs and then seeing where your sight window falls.
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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2016, 12:46:00 PM »
Daniel,
I think that's pretty common for wood recurve risers, long bows maybe not so much as they can be narrower in the grip area.  I've seen ways to measure it, but as has already occurred to you it's not as easy as it sounds. They're not like CNC metal milled risers with perfectly flat/perpendicular surfaces to reference off of. Maybe someone will chime in.  The easiest way is to ask the bowyer...and hope he's right. I'm assuming you're shooting 5/16" diameter standard shafts.  If you go skinny your results will vary and you may have to build out the sideplate.
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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2016, 12:58:00 PM »
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Daniel,
I think that's pretty common for wood recurve risers, long bows maybe not so much as they can be narrower in the grip area.  I've seen ways to measure it, but as has already occurred to you it's not as easy as it sounds. They're not like CNC metal milled risers with perfectly flat/perpendicular surfaces to reference off of. Maybe someone will chime in.  The easiest way is to ask the bowyer...and hope he's right. I'm assuming you're shooting 5/16" diameter standard shafts.  If you go skinny your results will vary and you may have to build out the sideplate.
I am currently shooting some standard 5/16" carbons.  I am not saying this way is the "best", but in my findings it is by far the easiest bow to shoot i've ever shot.
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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2016, 01:41:00 PM »
Seems like a good idea to me as you can always build your strikeplate out, if you didnt like it.
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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2016, 01:55:00 PM »
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Seems like a good idea to me as you can always build your strikeplate out, if you didnt like it.
that's what i've liked the most.  the ability to adjust an arrows spine is crazy. I've actually thought about sending this riser back to bob to have him install one of those duma fitchy's that goes behind your strike plate that you can adjust easily to fit your arrows.  I think I saw one of those on Pauldeadringer's bigfootbows.
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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2016, 02:56:00 PM »
EAglewings are 3/16 past center but when you add the sideplate they are more like 1/8th., I highly doubt that many if any are 1/4 in past which would make 3/16 after the sideplate, Or at least close.
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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2016, 03:13:00 PM »
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EAglewings are 3/16 past center but when you add the sideplate they are more like 1/8th., I highly doubt that many if any are 1/4 in past which would make 3/16 after the sideplate, Or at least close.
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I can't speak for that.  I can tell you that with the strike plate(a skinny one) the 5/16" arrow is dead nuts center on the bow.
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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2016, 03:40:00 PM »
Yes, a 5/16 would be right on or very close especially if the window is slightly over 3/16 which is possible, or the string could be slightly offside of center. Either way it works for ya and that is a good thing.

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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2016, 04:55:00 PM »
Stalker Wolverine is 3/16
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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2016, 06:22:00 PM »
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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2016, 06:52:00 PM »
Couple of good ones already mentioned. Metal risers are usually cut generously.

Glad center shot is working for you, I prefer the right side a shaft touching the string at tip when looking from behind, you need a little offset for fingers. Does make tuning easier.
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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2016, 08:37:00 PM »
I have a Titan that is
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Re: Bows cut past 3/16" center
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2016, 10:50:00 PM »
Border has risers cut 5/16" past center. Risers are reinforced with carbon.

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