Pic in previous post (and how tha heck do you get multiple photobucket shots into a single post?) --is one of my three primary elk blinds, which together have given me more close clean elk kills over the past 25 years than I care to admit. These are serious blinds, not just squat-down spots for a few minutes. In this spot and other like it, I can sit for hours and stay in the shade and downwind of the well-used elk wallow (mud in background). I can move around. I can feel relaxed. This took much study over a long time to get it right, and how it has paid off over the years! Just a bit of brush piled up in front to waist height, plaid jacket and camo face maks (does anyone sell a plaid face mask?), a tree to lean against and provide daylong shade, a down log to sit on, a foot-deep hole dug out for foot comfort, and more brush behind to break up outline and conceal small movements. Mid-September this year I watched a 5x5 bull stand broadside and look around, then wallow for 20 minutes, all at 14 yards from this blind. Previous years I've watched whole herds come in and splash and play ... and never once had one even glance my way. And yes, elk have died here! No Quadruple Bull, Etc. needed or wanted -- just good old-fashioned woodsmanship and a visit to the chosen site a couple of weeks before opening each year, with small folding Gerber saw and e-tool. Thanks for a good thread, George. How much more fun, and cheaper, it is to study the old ways of doing things, rather than studying what we should buy next. Dave