Recommend a Carbon Shaft for Me

[buckeyebowhunter]

Hi guys, I finally got set up with an ILF rig. I ended up getting an aluminum riser from Bob. It is sweet. Right now I have a cheap set of black max limbs on it until I get enough saved up for some of Bob's max4s. Anyway I am shooting about 50# at 27 inches. I have shot aluminum arrows for many years but I was considering giving carbons another try for the more "high tech" ilf set up. However, I am not sure where to start.

I looked at 3rivers chart and it was indicating about 400 spine. However, I have rarely found these charts to work once I actually start tuning. I bare shaft tune and I normally try to keep my point weight around 225 this allows me to shoot the Deltas that I glued up years ago with 100 gr inserts. Like I mentioned I draw about 27" and the weight is around 50#. I am shooting off the shelf with velcro and a furniture pad as the side plate.

I am looking for affordable shafts. I saw the beman bowhunters on 3rivers were like 59.99 for a dozen. This would be around my price range however I really dig those autumn orange fmj by easton. I would really appreciate some help with the new set up. As always thanks to everyone!

[John146]

I shoot 47# at 28 and use .500 spine Gold Tip Hunters in Black. Don't have experience with the others. Just got some at Big Jims for a great price.

[buckeyebowhunter]

Thanks John anyone else?

[Rough Run]

I'm in the same boat as you.  Have always shot aluminum, just started shooting some woodies.  My new bow is 53@29", so I'm going to try some carbons.  I got some GT Trad blems from Big Jim's, $50/dozen.  I got .400 & .500 because I don't know anything about the carbons.  Figure I'll make 2 or 3 of each, and figure out what works best.
Good Luck!  I reckon I'm gonna need some, too!

[kenneth butler]

go with 500.    Ken

[Orion]

That ILF rig is cut past center, and the Black Max limbs are actually pretty good limbs, not speed demons, but fast enough.  I'm assuming you're also shooting a fast flite string.  Given these features, I think that .400s may work, particularly in a skinny shaft like an Easton Axis. Can you find one or two to try?  .500s will also work in my opinion.  Most bows will shoot a range of spines, particularly those cut past center.

[shedhunta]

Shot gold tip for awhile.  Switched to Beeman Centershots.  Seem much more consistent to me and definetly more durable.  I love them.  

Plus the wood grain looks pretty darn good.

[forestdweller]

.500's should shoot very weak out of that set up. .400's should do the trick especially if you plan on putting 225 up front.

[creekwood]

500 was my first reaction but if you are using 225 grains up front (you didn't say if that included the 100gr insert) then maybe the 400 shafts would be a better choice. Maybe ya need to get a test kit and see which works better for you might be the correct answer.

[katman]

400 if you like a long arrow and 500 if you want it a little over your draw length.

[crazynate]

Yup i have the same specs. If you want bro shoot 400s leave em long or cut 500s past shelf. I really like the beman center shots to. I d get them in 500  if it was me.

[dbd870]

I use Centershot's as well. My first reaction was to use 500's but with 325gr up front 400's may be fine especially if you leave them long. I too haven't found the chart to be very accurate.

[buckeyebowhunter]

Sorry I'm only shooting 225 up front. Probably Closer to 250 with the arrow insert. What I have are zwickey deltas 135 gr. and a 100 gr steel insert glued in them. Plus the screw in insert at the end of the arrow. I believe they weigh around 25-30 gr? I'll have to check at home. So I probably have closer to 250gr up front.

The other thing you can do with 3555 Gold Tips (500)is add some 3/16" nylon rope or tubes inside the entire shaft length. Stiffens them up a bit and adds needed weight to the shaft.

[hawkeye n pa]

I'm shooting 500 centershots, bow cut to center, 55# @ 28", arrows cut at 29", 245gr up front.

[Terry Johnston]

get the "test set" from gold tip, then tune and you will know for sure.I love the gold tips because you can add weight if needed. I agree with John, Big Jim has good prices and you may get some "blems" which to are great shooters and very affordable..

[TIM B]

My bear grizzly #55 shoots full length warrior's 400's w 245gn up front very well-- but w 145 up front they are too stiff.  
Just a little more for your equation
Tim

[kennym]

Test kit, and keep it, you will use it and help your buds decide on arrows for a long time.

How deep the riser is cut makes a lot of diff so I'm not even gonna make a guess......

[BigJim]

You should be able to adjust the side plate on that bow to make just about any shaft work for it. 500's would be ideal, but 400's will work too.

BigJim

[buckeyebowhunter]

Thanks guys i appreciate it!