Which arrow setup would you choose?

[oobray]

Ok, so I'm a newb. I tuned two different arrows. Specs are below. I feel really comfortable with either as far as accuracy is concerned. Trajectory actually isn't al that much different out to 25yds which is what I'm giving myself as ethical hunting limits.
The bow is a Bear Supermag 48 50#@28 and I'm drawing to 27". Both arrows are Gold Tip Traditional Hunter carbons.

Arrow 1)

350 spine
100gr insert
150gr weights
125 tip
Total weight 704gr
135fps measured approximately when the knock leaves string.

Arrow 2)
500 spine
100gr insert
125gr tip
Total weight 503gr
155 fps measured same as arrow 1.

I was able to tune both to what I believe is same quietness and both appear to be flying erynstraight. With the 500 maybe straighter, but the small fish tailing could be the shooter.

I'm looking for a setup I can use for whitetail all the way through elk (should I ever get the chance). I know, what's important is a sharp BH (I'll be using a good 2 or 3 blade COC) and of course getting the shot where it's supposed to be. Be that as it may, which set up should I focus on in y'all opinions and why?  Oh, the online KE and momentum calculators give the edge slightly to the 340, but I know those are just numbers.

Thanks!!

[Biathlonman]

Arrow #2, Arrow #1 is just to slow for me.

[slowbowjoe]

X2, same reason... slower and the trajectory gets funky.

[Deno]

#2

Deno

[gordydog]

Set them up with your broadhead and shoot as close as 5 yds and at different distances out to your max range......whatever setup you shoot best. Not kinda good flight, but the arrow that pinwheels into the target like a laser and gives you confidence.  Choose that one.

[oobray]

Thanks guys, I'll shoot broadheads again and make sure but I think the edge (no pun intended) in that category would go to the 500. I can shoot a "pinwheel" with the 340 but it seems to fishtail more often than the 500. Would the 504gr arrow and 155fps be sufficient for elk at <25yds? Don't know when I'll make an elk hunt, I'm hoping for this fall but I'd rather not have to tune a whole new arrow.

[Biathlonman]

Just my opinion but you're very much borderline with arrow and bow.

[JRY309]

The #2 arrow would be the best choice.The #1 arrow is close to roughly 14.9 gpi at your draw.I think that when you get to over 13 gpi there comes a point of diminishing returns.The #2 arrow puts you at over 10 gpi,I prefer my arrows to hit 9-11 gpi.JMO

[Orion]

Shoot the lighter arrow for deer and the heavier arrow for elk.

[John146]

Originally posted by JRY309:
The #2 arrow would be the best choice.The #1 arrow is close to roughly 14.9 gpi at your draw.I think that when you get to over 13 gpi there comes a point of diminishing returns.The #2 arrow puts you at over 10 gpi,I prefer my arrows to hit 9-11 gpi.JMO

This!

[screamin]

Originally posted by Biathlonman:
Just my opinion but you're very much borderline with arrow and bow.

For elk yes, I agree. I definitely would NOT use a 3 blade either.

[oobray]

Biathlon man what do you mean exactly?


So you guys think I'd need another bow for elk? I know they make a supermag in 60# but from what I've read they don't shoot all that much faster than the 50.

Originally posted by gordydog:
Set them up with your broadhead and shoot as close as 5 yds and at different distances out to your max range......whatever setup you shoot best. Not kinda good flight, but the arrow that pinwheels into the target like a laser and gives you confidence.  Choose that one.

I'd have to go with tbis^^^^^^, and for me, it would be arrow #2. No way I could get used to the tradjectory of a 130fps. Also, I have seen first hand how fast deer can react, and would never have full confidence in an arrow going that slow!

Bisch

[Prairie Drifter]

Originally posted by Orion:
Shoot the lighter arrow for deer and the heavier arrow for elk.

My opinion also.

[the rifleman]

Arrow number 2!  Arrow number 1 is over 15 gpp and will drop like a rock at that speed.  Arrow 2 will drop any deer you hit well.  Speed isn't everything, but there is such a thing as too slow.  Sounds like you did a good job tuning!

[crazynate]

Both seem to be way off for those bow specs. A 500 with that much up front seems to be way to week. If I had to choose guess I'd say the 500 but without all the crazy extra weight up front.

[Pat B]

The ones that shoot the most accurately and consistently for you.

[Flatshooter]

I agree with most everyone here, arrow #2. Arrow #1 is WAY TOO Heavy! With a 27" draw you are only pull around 47#. You might have decent arrow flight but it's got to be dropping like a rock. I would also suggest playing around with the up front weight in your tuning efforts.

[oobray]

Thanks guys. I played around a lot with weight. I tried some 400's but by the time I got them bare shafting correctly they were really close in weight and speed to the 340s. So I wanted one that was really heavy, and one that was right at 10gr/#. I think because they're all cut so short the 400s were really stiff. Same with 340s but I think there was only like an 5-8fps difference in the 340s and 400s.

[Fletcher]

Originally posted by oobray:
Biathlon man what do you mean exactly?


So you guys think I'd need another bow for elk? I know they make a supermag in 60# but from what I've read they don't shoot all that much faster than the 50.

The 48" Bears I've shot are pretty much performance dogs and not that nice to shoot.  There is a reason most bows are longer.  If you need the short length for a tight blind or other situation it's OK, but otherwise you would be much better served by a longer bow.  I know this isn't what you want to hear, but is based on over 30 years of seriously doing this stuff.  I'm not an elk hunter, but would consider 47 @ 27 to be marginal and would at least want a higher performance design bow.