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Greg Owen
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Samick Sage owners
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January 15, 2017, 12:08:00 AM »
I was shooting today when a young man bought his first bow. It was a Samick Sage. He draws 28" and the bow is 40# at 28". The archery people weren't giving much good advice to the new guy. What do you Sage owners use to shoot off the shelf? And what nock point height? Any idea on arrows? I'd like to be ready if I see the young guy again. Thanks for any info. I know it can vary widely among people but any info shared is useful.
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Bud B.
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 15, 2017, 01:20:00 AM »
The shelf and sideplate can be the loop half of velcro. Arrows - 600 spine at 31". Points will be about 125-145gr or maybe even 175gr. Nock point roughly 3/8" above shelf line.
That should be ballpark.
If I had that bow and were drawing 28" that is where I would start, but be ready and willing to make adjustments.
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Jessebeaux
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 15, 2017, 03:29:00 AM »
Side plate is Bear hair rest
600 spine arrows with 125-175 grain tips depending on what length feathers he wants to shoot. Axis fly really well. I'd recommend 4" shields though.
3/8 above self line
Tell him to upgrade his string though.
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Greg Owen
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 15, 2017, 03:42:00 AM »
What string do you suggest and why?
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MarlinMark
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 15, 2017, 05:03:00 AM »
I would be curious as to the string as well. I've been shooting my Samick Sage Deluxe for a couple months now. I don't have the measurements on me right now but I can do it when I'm home.
But I too want to upgrade my string. What type? By whom?
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Tom
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 15, 2017, 07:59:00 AM »
Several very good string makers on here but Allen at Tenring Strings makes strings for all my bows.
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dagwood64
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 15, 2017, 09:33:00 AM »
I have a Samick Journey 64" 45#@28, and I have a SBD 6 strand bowstring, with the Bow Hush and Hush Puppies on the string. It is quiet and smooth shooting. I have a calf hair rest and side plate.
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Greg Owen
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 15, 2017, 10:56:00 AM »
So people do use reduced strand modern material bowstrings on the Samick bows? That's interesting.
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Bud B.
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 15, 2017, 11:01:00 AM »
Yes. 3Rivers advertises in the Sage description they sell FF strings for the bow.
"The Sage Takedown Recurve Bow String is a Dacron Endless loop bow string. Or you can order the Recurve 58" Fast Flight® Plus Flemish bow string to get the full performance from your Samick Sage recurve (recommended by 3Rivers Archery). Manufacturer recommended brace height: 7½" - 8½". Replacement string length of 58" recommended."
The string it comes with is fine to use until the owner wants something different or needs to replace a damaged string.
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mboustany
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 15, 2017, 01:34:00 PM »
I don't shot off the shelf. I use an inexpensive stick on rest. I have the nock about 3/8" above the rest. I shot Carbon Express Predator II 30-50 at full length (29 7/8") with 3 3" feathers and 125 grain points and the seem to fly quite nicely.
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mboustany
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 15, 2017, 01:43:00 PM »
Oops forgot to mention the above is on a 40 # Samick Sage and my draw length is 28"
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Shooter#21
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 15, 2017, 02:02:00 PM »
5/8" Nocking point height off the bear hair rest that comes with the bow. Easton 2016 full length aluminum arrow with 125 or 145 grain points will work just fine.
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 15, 2017, 02:42:00 PM »
My Sage likes an 8'' bh, nocking point at 1/2'' and I have a bear hair rest and plate. My bow is 45 and I draw 29.5'' or so though, so my arrow set up wouldn't be anywhere close to his.
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Captain*Kirk
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 16, 2017, 03:23:00 PM »
The string that comes standard with a Sage is an endless loop, and is way too long even with excessive twisting. Strung up out of the box will yield less than 5" brace height. Naturally it will be noisy as hell with a bunch of hand shock. Replacing my standard string with a FF of correct length made it a whole new bow.
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Greg Owen
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 16, 2017, 03:40:00 PM »
The bow this young man bought didn't have a low brace height. It seemed right to my eye. I'd guess 7-8 inches, definitely not 5 inches.
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LBR
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 16, 2017, 04:15:00 PM »
I've had several come through my shop, all had a pretty lousy string.
I like 18-20 strands of BCY-X or 8190, but 12 strands of Dynaflight '97 also makes a good string.
I bought a Samick Journey (64" version of the Sage) when BCY-X came out around 4 years ago. I bought it just to test the new material--liked it so much with the BCY-X string that I'm still shooting it.
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 16, 2017, 06:25:00 PM »
Intoduced8 a good friend last summer to traditional archery and then he decided to to procure a new 45@28 Samick Sage....he draws 26"s. Established his setup after he acquired reliable form.
He is shooting a GT500 w/250 gn 2 blade. Placed him in a blind with me for the first time as he successfully scored with a complete pass thru on his first ever shot attempt in the field. The deer traveled nearly 60 yards before yielding.
The Samick Sage and setup combination proved most lethal.
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Greg Owen
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 16, 2017, 06:30:00 PM »
After hearing all these comments maybe I will buy one for myself. I hear that Southwestern Archery or whoever it is has a 3rd version of the Sage.
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Dee Kennedy
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 16, 2017, 06:38:00 PM »
I called 3rivers a couple days ago to get a recommendation on arrows for the same setup. I was recommended 500 spine 30" length arrows. I havent ordered them yet, but I'm taking in all the info here.
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ISP 5353
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Re: Samick Sage owners
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January 16, 2017, 08:32:00 PM »
Chad is right about the stock string. The one that came with my Journey was like a rope! Get a new string built and it will be a much sweeter shooting bow. Great job helping a new shooter!
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