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photos of tip wedges on HHA Hill bows?

Started by Learner, January 16, 2017, 11:39:00 AM

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Charlie Lamb

John Schulz told me that Howard Hill was "death" on anything that added weight to the tips of the bow. Personally I doubt that wedges add enough weight to the tips to affect performance.

Howard liked slim and fairly delicate limb tips and I've read at least a couple of accounts where he broke off a tip.
He just cut new nock grooves with his broadhead file and went about his business.
Hunt Sharp

Charlie

The one thing that a tip overlay can do, if it done well, would be with B50 strings, It could spread the stress on the string out around a continually curving ramp and provide a longer string life.   On my own I cheat a little, I cam the string slots and slightly round the back to avoid a total flat spot.  Perhaps Craig does this as well.

Orion

Here's something to think about re tip overlays, not wedges.  They add a few grains to the limb tip, but also have the effect of moving the limb tip 1/8-inch or so farther forward (i.e. increase the setback), adding that much more early load to the limbs.  IMO, it's a wash.  I like em because they look nice.

Long story short, the limb tip wedges are sufficient to enable a Hill bow to handle a fast flite string with ease.  Limb tip overlays aren't necessary, but they look nice and don't detract from the bow's performance.  It's a personal preference thing.  Go with what you like to look at knowing either will work just fine.

Learner

QuoteOriginally posted by David Mitchell:
Learner, I think you may be over-thinking this bow order.    :D    I have longbows with and without overlays--most have tip wedges.  I like the looks of overlays and don't think they contribute any performance loss at all--at least it isn't enough that I can see it.
:knothead:

LOL....so true; I definitely tend to overthink things, David!


Best wishes,
Frank
- Hill Big 5 ASL, 66", 45# @ 27"
- Hill Halfbreed ASL, 66", 45# @ 27"

- Cabela's Warden 62" recurves:
-- 40# @ 28"
-- 50# @ 28"

Proverbs 16:3
"Commit your works to the Lord, and your plans will be established."

Learner

So many great points raised by everyone.  Many thanks for the advice and photos!

   :notworthy:    

So I've decided to keep my order as is, without overlays.  And if, Lord willing I both learn to shoot my bow well and have the funds to get another Hill, I shall order that one with the overlays.
- Hill Big 5 ASL, 66", 45# @ 27"
- Hill Halfbreed ASL, 66", 45# @ 27"

- Cabela's Warden 62" recurves:
-- 40# @ 28"
-- 50# @ 28"

Proverbs 16:3
"Commit your works to the Lord, and your plans will be established."

David Mitchell

Learner, I had a buddy tell me one time that the best part of buying a new truck was "having the want tos". Yeah, it can be fun and confusing with so many choices.   :)  I can almost guarantee that tis will not be your last Hill.  They are addictive.
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The harsh reality is that real archery existed long before computers.  At the Sioux Falls shoots years ago, one of the hardest things to find was a place to park your car and they had a large parking area.


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