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Author Topic: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal  (Read 2737 times)

Online Jim Wright

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2017, 04:55:00 PM »
When the replies consistently reach 6"-8"s vertically, we have officially reached full "pissing contest" status!

Online Jim Wright

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #61 on: April 04, 2017, 04:57:00 PM »
And begin to bear a striking resemblance to the "other" trad site.

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2017, 05:07:00 PM »
Objective facts are the enemy of all liberal,(which is really not liberal, it is socialist), agendas.  Often things are diversions.  Right now thousands of pedophiles connected to the sex slave industry are getting arrested. The namby pambies and the liberal/socialist news outlets could care less.  Instead, there are diversions that get the front and center attention.  We are seeing it in Washington as well. Liberals are getting caught on almost a daily basis with their hands dirty.  What do they do?  They attack and declare perfectly normal and illegal things as great sins, so everyone is running from the new boogie man.  How does this have anything to do with trad hunting? They are throwing flack at all things that they do not control. We should not be fooled by these diversions, but check them out so we can keep the enemy in our sights.  Society and politics are at war.  The lying control freaks are not going to give up without a fight.  don't fall for their tricks, this BS poll is one of those tricks.

Offline TGbow

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #63 on: April 04, 2017, 05:12:00 PM »
Pavan, well said in a nut shell.

Offline YosemiteSam

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #64 on: April 04, 2017, 05:59:00 PM »
We need a virtual round of beers.  Anybody know a good traditional bowhunting joke to lighten things up a bit?
"A good hunter...that's somebody the animals COME to."
"Every animal knows way more than you do." -- by a Koyukon hunter, as quoted by R. Nelson.

Offline Michael Arnette

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #65 on: April 04, 2017, 06:04:00 PM »
Hhhm seems like a salvage requirement might maintain the right to hunt grizzly bears?

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #66 on: April 04, 2017, 06:16:00 PM »
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Hhhm seems like a salvage requirement might maintain the right to hunt grizzly bears?
That would go a long way to shifting public perception. The main objections to this policy change have come from the Guide Outfitter's Association which sees it as an onerous requirement that complicates their business model.

I would like to see 100% of hunter/fishing licence revenue returned back to the ministry to allow good data collection and management. That would go a long way to sustainability and public goodwill.

More than anything i encourage open thoughtful dialogue among sportsmen and women about all facets of an issue, rather than shortsighted, knee-jerk reactions (on either side of the spectrum). If we really care about the game we pursue on the lands that it inhabits we have to be methodical and open to adapting.
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Offline Deno

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #67 on: April 04, 2017, 08:06:00 PM »
Voted

Brock is correct.   The title should say Grizzly Hunting instead of trophy hunting.  

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Offline bornagainbowhunter

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #68 on: April 04, 2017, 08:50:00 PM »
I did some quick research and Javelina are supposedly good eating, one of the first things that popped up was that they are even better eating than wild hogs!

     http://www.javelinahunter.com/

Well if it's on the internet it must be true!!!
I hunt javies also, but don't eat them, I give them away just like ol' Bisch.
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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #69 on: April 04, 2017, 09:06:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Jim Wright:
When the replies consistently reach 6"-8"s vertically, we have officially reached full "pissing contest" status!
This is caused by folks talking about things they don't know about. Most of the "more trad than thou" guy's on here have never killed a single critter with a stick bow. People just talking and being keyboard heros.

I have found that the guys who are very successful with a trad bow could care less if you hunt with a stick or an AR. its about the hunt, not about the tool.

LONG LIVE THE HUNT!!
But thou, O LORD, art a shield for me; my glory, and the lifter up of mine head. Psalms 3:3

Offline forestdweller

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #70 on: April 04, 2017, 09:59:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Jim Wright:
When the replies consistently reach 6"-8"s vertically, we have officially reached full "pissing contest" status!
This is caused by folks talking about things they don't know about. Most of the "more trad than thou" guy's on here have never killed a single critter with a stick bow. People just talking and being keyboard heros.

I have found that the guys who are very successful with a trad bow could care less if you hunt with a stick or an AR. its about the hunt, not about the tool.

LONG LIVE THE HUNT!! [/b]
The simpler your tool the more skill is required and the more rewarding the hunt is and the more you are respected.

Guys like Bill Negley were very adamant that bow hunting was the most difficult and the real "true" way to hunt and the last time I checked he was very successful.

                 
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Originally posted by bornagainbowhunter:
I did some quick research and Javelina are supposedly good eating, one of the first things that popped up was that they are even better eating than wild hogs!

                       http://www.javelinahunter.com/                  

Well if it's on the internet it must be true!!!
I hunt javies also, but don't eat them, I give them away just like ol' Bisch.
I checked multiple links and they are most definitely edible. I even checked the online encyclopedia known as wikipedia. People like you won't eat them because you are too picky and have too many options of food to eat.

People like me will literally eat any meat.

The sad thing is that people actually kill animals just for their head. I'd never thought that a modern single string archer would condone trophy hunting let alone trophy hunt.

I thought we were all better than that. Traditional archery is a life style which is about old way traditional ethics, values, food you consume, and so on.

Trophy Hunting on the other hand is very modern and something that was just started in Europe in the 1800's as an ego boost. Trophy hunting is something that goes hand in hand with the compound world.

Also someone mentioned that vermin like Coyote are not edible which is NOT true at all. Coyote are most definitely edible and there is a guy on dual survival that eat's the back straps and I know of a few people that find it to be delicious especially in a stew.

Since people are posing lot's of questions in this thread my question is, if you are not going to eat the meat why the hell are you going to kill it? All life has value and whether we like it or not we are equal to all other animals. I promise you that if you were a Grizzly Moma Bear you would value your life and your cubs life over that of a humans. We only believe that a humans life has more value because we are a human.

If you were that grizzly that was just being killed for it's head your world and opinions would flip upside down so please show some respect to these beautiful creatures and at least eat the damn meat like your ancestors did.

Offline Michael Arnette

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #71 on: April 04, 2017, 11:07:00 PM »
Forest dweller. One time when I was in high school I shot a coyote and being the noble type that I am   :laughing:  I wanted to try to eat it. Let me tell you I got about halfway through gutting it before the stench started making me gag.
I did tan the hide myself though and recently made a really cool quiver out of it...but no I will not eat coyote unless I'm starving
I have since tasted dog in Nigeria and though it was some of the best meat I've ever had. I'd say the same about black bear but dont know anything about grizzly meat.

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #72 on: April 04, 2017, 11:07:00 PM »
I never once said javelinas were not edible. I said they taste like crap, and I don't eat them because I don't like them. Why should I eat something I don't like when there are other things out there that I do like to choose from? You are way overboard with the way you look down on everyone who does not do things the way you think they should be done!

I'm out!

Bisch

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #73 on: April 04, 2017, 11:09:00 PM »
...I found javelina meat to be very good as well. I don't touch feral hogs that I shoot though varmints have to eat too

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #74 on: April 04, 2017, 11:44:00 PM »
Squirrel!!!
So, we are off topic and that is ok too.

It looks like a javelina is a pretty small critter. What is there for meat on one? To my eye it looks like after head/hide/viscera maybe about ten to fifteen pounds? How do you cook them?

I remember years ago being told that they have some kind of glands that make them smell kind of funky and can have an effect on meat quality.
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Offline Michael Arnette

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #75 on: April 04, 2017, 11:55:00 PM »
I fried my first bit of javelina and put the second batch in the crock pot like a pot roast. The trick is to not touch the meet with knife, hands, or anything that has touched the hide. The scent is all over the hide and especially around the scent gland.

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #76 on: April 05, 2017, 12:03:00 AM »
OK, here is the best javi recipe that I have found:

1. Skin javi (being careful not to mess with the musk gland on the back) and lay out flat on a piece of clean plywood.

2. Take a 2x4 and beat the crap out of the javi to tenderize it.

3. Throw the javi away and eat the 2x4!

   :laughing:    :laughing:    :laughing:    

Bisch

Offline Michael Arnette

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #77 on: April 05, 2017, 12:10:00 AM »
:biglaugh:

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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #78 on: April 05, 2017, 01:02:00 AM »
This will probably get me tarred and feathered here, but Bisch's recipe describes my experiences with how wild turkey should be handled...I've never killed one, but i have eaten a few helpings and have found it be a pretty unpleasant experience every time.
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Re: Vote to keep grizzly hunting legal
« Reply #79 on: April 05, 2017, 02:31:00 AM »
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This will probably get me tarred and feathered here, but Bisch's recipe describes my experiences with how wild turkey should be handled...I've never killed one, but i have eaten a few helpings and have found it be a pretty unpleasant experience every time.
Ever had it soaked in buttermilk and chicken fried? Mmm-mmm Good!!!!

Bisch

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