I just cut a very large, and nicely straight female persimmon at my job yesterday. I have multiple 8' lengths of which I hope to get a number of staves. I have very few finished bows under my belt, but I am excited about this opportunity. I expect to get enough staves to experiment a bit and I hope to be able to make flat bows, round in the belly bows both short and long. I hope that this experiment goes well, and that I learn a lot. For sure this will take a long time. But you gotta get your materials when they are available. If/when things turn out, including failures, I'll do what I can to make an understandable post, with pics.