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Author Topic: Gearing Up for a Large Boar -- Help from Experienced Hog Hunters Needed  (Read 1977 times)

Offline ahab78

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Link to image of the boar and a sounder above.
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I saw pics of his boar earlier.  Not a crazy shield, and really seems to drop off in the crease for a quartering away shot.  I think he could get it done.  I think he is probably around 45#@26".  I agree that accuracy is paramount, but if I was gonna target large boars, I would work my way up some.  Personal preference.  I think a 55# bow would be around 50# at his draw.  I would feel alot more comfortable with that.

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I agree.....saddle bags not that pronounced...and not overly barreled.

And his hair line is pointing right to the middle if his vitals making for an easy spot to focus on.....can ya see it?

A little more bow wouldn't hurt IF accuracy isn't jeoardized.

You just need to get in range pardner.       :readit:
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I see exactly what you are talking about, Terry. But Jerry's story about Kong and talking with Pat today have made me realize getting in range of this guy is gonna be a task. But you see why I wanted some more horsepower in a bow. I don't want to get into a Jaws situation: "Gonna need a bigger bow!"
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Yes sir ....getting in range is our task    ;)
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I shoot around 50 lbs at 27 and arrows around 600 grains. I shoot sharks for most every thing but for a big hog I would have a Grizzly or a no mercy head on the string. I have been bow hunting a long time and I would not shoot at that pig at 25 yards. 15 or less would be my limit.
    Jerry hit the nail on the head. A pig with some age on him and one that has felt some pressure is a mighty sharp pig and will be very tough to kill in the day light. RC

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Thanks, RC. Pat gave me some great advice about how to go about getting a shot at him at night. I have a good idea where he is laying up when on my property, but it will likely take a long while to pattern him good enough to put a daylight stalk on him, if ever. I may be ready to go on the next full moon for a night hunt.

15 yards and under is my rule. I will check out the grizzlies and no mercys.

Any advice on getting an arrow up to 600 grains? Thinking about going with brass inserts and aquarium tubing to bring up the weight.
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I use 100gr brass inserts to get my arrow weight up. I tried weight tubes but they changed the spine of my arrow and made it fly awful. So I stick with weight up front.
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I will try to address your charging concerns this evening
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Thanks, Basin. I've heard the weight tubes can change the spine. Instead, I was thinking of getting brass inserts, steel broadhead adapters, and glue on broadheads to get the weight up. Since I have a short draw length (26"), my concern is that carbons weighing 7-8 gpi cut to 27" will put me in the 5 gpp range with just the arrow. I was thinking of putting my weight up front with the adapters and broadhead components to give me an extra 300 or so grains, putting me at around 500 grains total for a 45# bow, getting me around 11 gpp. I was planning on getting a field point test kit for bare shaft tuning with the brass inserts to see what size broadhead adapter and broadhead weights I will need.
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Thanks, Terry. Pat put my mind at ease about being charged yesterday, but I welcome your advice on the matter, and I'm sure others would too.
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Brian,

You said early on that there was a canal that ran along the thick stuff.  Can you do some exploring from a canoe, kayak or small boat?
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Selfbow,

Not that big of a canal. It probably comes up to chest height at its deepest point and is about 3-4 feet wide. We have a road that runs along it from North to South across our property that parallels several water oak flats. They were sticking to that road but all the water oak acorns are gone now. They've been rooting up pine roots now, and it looks like the sounder of sows and shoats has moved into some thick pines on my cousin's side where no one hunts. I thought they'd be using the canal for a wallow, but now I think they are using the canal on my cousin's side, plus there is another flat of water oaks over there. I'm sure I can get on the sounder and get a good shot, but the boar is another matter.

I think he is holding up on the north end of our property at the end of the canal that drains into a swamp just off our property. It is some thick brush surrounding the entire swamp. I've been in there once coon hunting and it was a chore to break brush and get in there. No way I can slip in from my property and get to where I think he is hanging his hat. I may be able to go up the road and come in from someone else's property, but I think they're chasing him too, so chances are not good I will get permission. I may just walk/crawl up the canal since the water is low and see if I can get in that way.

He has not come back to our baited traps yet, and I don't suspect he will anytime soon.
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Originally posted by ahab78:
Thanks, Basin. I've heard the weight tubes can change the spine. Instead, I was thinking of getting brass inserts, steel broadhead adapters, and glue on broadheads to get the weight up. Since I have a short draw length (26"), my concern is that carbons weighing 7-8 gpi cut to 27" will put me in the 5 gpp range with just the arrow. I was thinking of putting my weight up front with the adapters and broadhead components to give me an extra 300 or so grains, putting me at around 500 grains total for a 45# bow, getting me around 11 gpp. I was planning on getting a field point test kit for bare shaft tuning with the brass inserts to see what size broadhead adapter and broadhead weights I will need.
What I did was go to a stiffer spined arrow and cut t it to 29" so it would handle more weight up front even though my draw length is only 26".
I went to Magnus Stingers because I could get them in 150gr in 2 blade, with a 100gr brass insert that's 250gr up front.
If you go with 500 spine gold tips they are 8.6gpi, cut to 29" they weight about 250gr plus the 250 up front will put you at 500 total. You might have to play with the length to get them tuned to your bow.
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Thanks, Basin. I will look at that option, but right now I am also looking at Beman Bowhunters at 500 with 100 grain brass inserts, 125 grain steel adapters, and 160 grain ace Standards to get me closer to the 600 grains mark like RC suggested.
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Originally posted by ahab78:
Thanks, Basin. I will look at that option, but right now I am also looking at Beman Bowhunters at 500 with 100 grain brass inserts, 125 grain steel adapters, and 160 grain ace Standards to get me closer to the 600 grains mark like RC suggested.
600gr out the 45# bow?
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Around 550 is my goal. I will probably end up getting lighter adapters and broadheads after I bareshaft tune with field points and brass inserts. Have to see what the Red Wing likes and I can shoot well with. But 600 grain arrows of doom would be awesome if they flew good! I am hoping to get a 55# bow in a few weeks so 600 would certainly be fine then.
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