Carbons - Yay or Nay?

[Holybeardman]

Hi All!

I've been looking into carbon arrows over the past few days and while I know I really don't NEED them, I was thinking about trying them to compare to my basic Easton Jazz Aluminums..

I'm shooting a Fleetwood Monarch @ 30 lbs currently with 1916 Jazz arrows... I am looking at Gold Tip Traditionals probably in a 400 spine.

Also critical, I have only been shooting for upwards of a month and a half..

Thanks in advance.

Kevin

[Biathlonman]

Nope.  1916 would need a .600 to compare.  And if you are happy with 1916s, no reason to look at carbon.

[Holybeardman]

Fair point. Maybe I can find a buddy at the range who has some just for comparison's sake. Probably nothing really wrong with testing them out right?

[Draven]

I don't think you will really see a difference other than carbons don't bend as easy as aluminum in just 1 month and a half of shooting. But give it a try with .600, why not? It was a time when I had both types in my quiver.

[Holybeardman]

I've heard a few different things but it all sounds like its just a preference thing.

Maybe I will give it a shot.

Thanks guys

At 30#, you will likely need a .700 spine! .400's will be waaaaaaaaaay too stiff!

I say "Yea", but only if you get a shaft that will tune for you. It does boil down to personal preference, but you won't know which you prefer until you have tried both.

Bisch

[Holybeardman]

I am planning on moving up to either a 35 or 40 lb limb soon. (Not sure what is too much of a jump!) So to one degree, I don't want to get arrows and then have to get new spines...

[huskyarcher]

You wouldn't need a 400 until you make it up to like 53-55lbs. Like stated before a 600 should fit  just right now, and at 40-45lbs.

Main thing at this point is just to shoot!

[Matty]

Originally posted by Bisch:
At 30#, you will likely need a .700 spine! .400's will be waaaaaaaaaay too stiff!

I say "Yea", but only if you get a shaft that will tune for you. It does boil down to personal preference, but you won't know which you prefer until you have tried both.

Bisch

This.....
I just got some 700 entrada ultralights for a 40# bow I have. I think this might be the ticket for you as well

[Gil]

Jazz is not made of the tougher alloys so you would eventually bend some in a couple of weeks. Carbon will not bend  but will break if you hit something hard like a nail in a target stand. That said, improve your form first before investing in some carbons because you will not be able to tune them properly at this stage in your learning.

[Holybeardman]

Thanks for all the help everyone.

Glad its not a judgy forum haha.

[acedoc]

Please keep in mind to flex a carbon arrow before you shoot it. Had one blow up on me at release, scary!
To be fair the arrow had earlier passed through my target and hit the ground hard

[Holybeardman]

Thanks for the advice.

I heard that you should flex each arrow a few times to be safe.

Not planning on pulling shards out of me arm anytime soon.

[Woodpuppy]

What kind of shooting are you doing? I find that carbons are tougher in the woods and take abuse that would bend and dent or kink aluminums. However, I've also had the nock end split when I hit the steel bar in a 3D target leg. If you're shooting field archery, aluminums should last but as mentioned, the jazz arrows are a softer alloy. What is your draw length? This will play a big part in your arrow selection. For example I'm shooting a 45lb recurve with .400 spine carbons, but they're full length and my draw is 30.75".

I still get wrapped up in arrow cost once in a while, until I remember that going to one highpower rifle match costs me more than a dozen arrows!

[shag08]

I'm with Bisch....most likely a .700 spine. You might get .600 to work for you depending on draw length. I really like carbons myself...esp now that I've got an arrow saw and cutting for the perfect tune isn't an issue.

[Terry Johnston]

x2 what shag08 said...

[the rifleman]

Gold tip warriors come in 700 and i believe 800.  You can get a total weight w tip in low 300s- that would be a good recipe for your 30# rig.

[the rifleman]

PS-- i paid $50.00 a doz for some 700s that included nocks and inserts.  They tune well out of my 43# non hs Whip.

[Holybeardman]

Thanks! I will give em a check.

I have a buddy with a half doz 600 gold tip trads he's willing to let go for cheap.

[Matty]

Originally posted by Holybeardman:
Thanks! I will give em a check.

I have a buddy with a half doz 600 gold tip trads he's willing to let go for cheap.

Good place to start but I still think they will be too stiff. Might want to call RMSG they have some of the carbon express 800s might be a good option too.