Here in Illinois 30 minutes before sunrise is legal bow time. No matter if hunting in tree or ground, I like to be set up and ready by that time. How long it takes me to get there, depends on one thing my route to hunting area, by wind. I agree one should not be bumbling around at dark, and a good low red light head lamp works, to be as quiet as possible. Let me give you all a tip, I learned years ago, though am sure others know is as well. If you cann't get to your stand quietly in the morning, you better get in a lot earlier. If public ground, take some time and study where others are hunting, and use it to your advantage. We all know deer do not seem to be detered by white light, but keep in mind with turkey's in your area, roosting, they do and their movement, can affect the behavior of a mature deer (seen it).