I still have my ole man original version with the round cable ends,, remember trying to line those holes up for the pin? I also have the gorilla version which is close but didn't get the cigar,,,, ole man is back in business now I hear..
I agree about the LW seat too close to tree someone said it made you sit correct ergonomically and was good for your back I think it makes you lean forward with your upper chest and shoulders too much.,. seriously though why doesn't someone who works in a machine shop make a after market mod for that so the seat can be two more inches from tree? Then LW would be like Huh what's that!!!