WOW! What a rocket launcher.

[smokin joe]

A year ago, when I knew I was a couple of months away from shoulder replacement surgery (surgery date 11/7/16) and I parted ways with some of my collection of Bear recurves and Bear TDs so I could move down in draw weight.

I picked up two Centaur bows, a Chimera and a Triple Carbon Elite -- both 43# at 29". They are amazing bows and they shoot an arrow like my 50# bows did. I am impressed with the performance gains in the design of these hot-rod R/D bows.

I also picked up a pair of Border aftermarket limbs for one of my few remaining Bear TD risers. These limbs are 42# at 28" -- I draw close to 29" so perhaps they are 44# or so. These limbs launch a 525 gr arrow like is is being shot out of a rocket launcher. That's well over 12 gpp and it is shooting like Bear limbs 10 pounds heavier. I am so impressed with the performance of these limbs -- they are in a class by themselves.

I am hunting with the Centaurs now, but I am fiddling with the Border a bit. It is bare shaft tuned to shoot right on the money, and I am hearing some post-shot limb hum that is not coming from the string. The Border limb tips are very skinny and I am convinced the low-pitched hum is from them. I am not worried about it very much. By the time the hum becomes evident the arrow is already in the target.

Just wanted to do a shout out on the impressive Centaur longbows and the Border limbs for the Bear TD -- I am impressed.

[M60gunner]

I agree about the Border limbs. Have shot them a coupe times. Not shot the Centar bows. Looked at the triple carbon model as my "forever" bow but not sure if I would live long enough for delivery!!
 To bad Border doesn't make the Bear limbs anymore. To much variation in risers. Would have to be custom fitted according to what I read. The ILF limbs are as good or better.

[nineworlds9]

Borders are definitely smokers.  Not loud, but the several sets I tried did definitely have a tuning fork post shot quality to them.  Not my cup of tea.

Centaurs, now those are special.  Top of the heap.  You could own a loaded Centaur and never want for another bow, hands down.

But we all know the reality of that notion.  LOL

[AndreasLundin]

Ozyclint made a post in regards to this noise. His solution was a latex tubing which he put on the limbs tips. I liked the idea as it works like a protector at the same time. Needless to say it takes out the twang as well.

On my Border Black Douglas BB2 it wasn't so much a noise but more a humm after the shot.

Here is a photo of my bow with the tubing installed with about 1/2-3/4" over hang.

 

[kadbow]

Thought this was going to be a Kim Jong-un thread.

[batbow]

LOL

[Possum Head]

Originally posted by kadbow:
Thought this was going to be a Kim Jong-un thread.

Yeah hope Jim Neaves has a better since of humor than Kim Jung!

[smokin joe]

In my opinion, a Centaur bow is worth the time it takes to get one from Jim Neaves. Jim's bows are smooth, quiet, fast and stable. And, if you want a beautiful bow, Jim can make your bow beautiful -- he offers lots of custom features.

I have two Centaur bows and they are very impressive -- and Jim Neaves is a terrific guy to work with in the design and making of a custom bow. With my Triple Carbon Elite, the grip wasn't "just right" for my hand. Jim offered to alter it for free but I insisted on paying him at least a little something. It is "just right" now.

[kenneth butler]

A number of folks have dropped draw weight with no loss in energy. The latex tubing tip works. Hope ever one has a safe,productive season.>>>---> Ken

[Cyclic-Rivers]

Good Luck this season Joe!

[NBK]

Off topic but Andreas, where did u get the kuiu fletch cover?

[smokin joe]

Thanks, Andreas, for the photo of your Border bow. I remember Ozy's post about using a bit of rubber tube to reduce the limb tip vibration, and it is instructive to see a photo.

Charlie, best of luck with your season as well. I love Wisconsin -- one of the truly beautiful parts of the upper midwest.