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Author Topic: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?  (Read 895 times)

Offline Michael Arnette

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Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« on: November 07, 2017, 06:19:00 PM »
I've used rattling on and off in Oklahoma for around 14 years. I've only used it from around the last week in October until the third week in November and I've never had any luck. In fact I've noticed a marked level of fewer to no deer sightings when rattling!! So much so that the last 3 years I've never carried the antlers with me in oklahoma...only in Kansas. I've been trying again this year and so far every time I've rattled I haven't seen deer?!
So my question is what might I be doing wrong or has anyone else had the same problem? I'm wondering if the issue doesn't have to do with the fact that I mostly hunting travel corridors and rarely staging or bedding areas?

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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2017, 06:33:00 PM »
Michael, I 've had better results rattling while gun hunting. Most of the bucks have either come straight in for a frontal shot and only for a brief moment or came in from way down wind. Unless it is windy I don't rattle hard , I believe just like calling turkeys, they can pinpoint you. Now with that being said, I do like to tickle my horns lightly early pre rut. It draws some curiosity that can lead to a shot with bow
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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2017, 06:46:00 PM »
In Michigan...I’ve watched enough bucks run away from rattling I would not bother ever again.

In Iowa, Kansas, remote southern Ohio, Wyoming, Montana, Alberta, and Saskatchewan I’ve had great results.

I think if you are in an area where deer act like deer and not scared rats from pressure you have better luck with rattling...or grunting...or wheezing...or any flavor of the month attractant.

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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2017, 06:52:00 PM »
I've had rattling work great to spook deer away..
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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2017, 07:22:00 PM »
I have had great luck rattling in S Wisconsin where there are far more bucks than does. No luck anywhere else. so much so I don't bring the horns with me.

I have had most luck using a method similar to Mike Mittens however I didn't have a mess of big hors so I would rattle and have a  bunch of brush tied to a  rope at the base of a tree. Of course I have not done that in over 15 years as  I have been in another place where deer sightings were minimal at best.
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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2017, 09:48:00 PM »
I don't rattle often and typically when I do nothing happens.  But when it works it works great and there is no doubt it was due to rattling.  When bucks come to the noise thrashing their horns on everything in site it is a cool thing to behold.

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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2017, 09:56:00 PM »
I can't say I have had NO luck with it but I don't find it to be an ideal tactic most of the time.  

I only rattle in the later stages of pre-rut or the rut.  I only rattle where there is some wind; no wind and they pin point you too easy if they are close and you just get busted around here.  If it's super windy I just stay quiet as the noise won't travel that far anyway and I really only want to make noise to call in deer that are already far away.  When I rattle, I only do it from a stand and I only do it with horns on the small to average size for the area.  Deer will be looking for other deer on the ground, not in the trees.  I don't want horns that are huge drawing attention to me or sounding like a MONSTER is present to smaller deer that might make for a good meal...therefore I go for less is more.  When I rattle I use my gear line and attach the horns to it then slowly lower it to the base of the tree.  I jerk on the string and let them clash around and hit the ground (like stomping) or hit brush/leaves to simulate a rustling of the environment.  I've found this to produce a more natural sound and seems to work marginally better.

All that said, I consider it to be only a marginal tactic for my area and only worth attempting in the best scenarios.  Most of the time I hunt only with a doe bleat and grunt call that Jeremy made me.  My grunt gets 95% of my noise making attention throughout the year.  I only hit it when I see a buck that isn't going to cross my path.  Occasionally it'll work to bring them in closer.  In really early season occasionally does will come into a bleat but most of the time bucks ignore the bleat and does ignore my grunt where I hunt.
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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2017, 10:24:00 PM »
Tried it.

Zero deer showed up.

Most likely because I have no idea what I'm doing.  

A quiet ambush seem to be the best method for me.
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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2017, 11:38:00 PM »
I have rattled one buck in on Veterans day  years ago.  Usually nothing happens.

One year in October I was hanging a stand and knocking some branches down, when A nice buck came trotting in.

The for sound from a can was much more productive, but they were really looking for the deer.
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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2017, 12:15:00 AM »
I heard my first real buck fight a few weeks ago. Sounded nothing like "rattling".

It was a full on brawl. Leaves rustling all over from the wrestling and positioning. Super loud cracks on antlers (Not the tickle tickle of tine tips like most rattling). Loud panting. I heard that buck panting from 100 yards through the woods. 10-15 Loud gasps.

I don't recall any vocalizations before the battle or after.
 

I don't know how you could possible replicate that. Maybe be on the ground where you could run around. Slam the main beams as hard as you could together a few times here and there (think 2 wooden bats being swung into each other). And some panting and mid fight gutteral noises.

Wear eye protection and gloves, cause your horns are gonna be shattering tips off.   :cool:  

And then I still don't know what the reaction would be. The idea is to stimulate a mature buck fight to pull in another mature buck...right???? Intruders on his territory and such.

I don't see lowering antlers from a tree doing the job.


Anyway. I may try it midday sometime. I'm gonna look like a fool running around the woods, and most likely I'll break a finger on my horns. Lol

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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2017, 12:53:00 AM »
I have rattled in a few bucks.Not many and I really don't hardly ever try it.Especially on public land or land where they are accustomed to rattling.Some public may be okay if its way off the beaten track and thiers good competition between bucks because of high #s.

I think if their are good buck doe ratios and they are not hammered by rattling its a bonafide technique.

Somebucks may also just want to avoid other fighting bucks all together.Thier could be problems for them.

I am sure a lot of hunters try rattling because it seems like fast food.Just take the horns out and rattle in a good one and drag him out.So its probably overused and they get smart to it.

I would say pre rut before does are really hot is the best chance.

The few I rattled in were big mature ones and I was actually using huge mule deer antlers.I would really crash them together and grind them hard and make hoof thumping noises and thrash brush etc.Like a real brawl.That was in larger hunting tract areas before rattling was in every magazine.Alot of rubs and scrapes showing high buck #s and competition.

It can work at times.

I might try it on a peak time in a good area.Set up on the ground and cover a lot of ground trying multiple setups all day long and maybe strike gold.You would want a big hunting area for that.Set up so they cant get behind you if possible down wind.A lake or a River etc.They like to get downwind.Probably why it does not work manytimes.

I did it with a buddy.Rattler and shooter out front.They can hang up much like a wise gobbler.Always  hunted on the ground covering miles.

I never killed one rattling.But came close and saw some cool things.Including one absolute monster that hung up on the other side of the river at 50 yards.He galloped in like a horse and stood like a statue and departed after a 10 minute staredown

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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2017, 07:59:00 AM »
Even though I do it every season, rattling and spending money on buck lures have been a waste of time and money for me. The only deer I have ever rattled in were a doe and her fawn several years ago. They came running over like you had just whistled for your dog. I guess they wanted to see the fight.

I have had much more success using a can call and grunt tube to call in bucks.

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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2017, 08:13:00 AM »
Ah.....great memories rattling.....

This is my FIRST Trad Deer...First on the Ground...First Rattled in.... First deer kill on the family land my Great Great Grandfather homesteaded...and it was on a Thanksgiving morning...

     
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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2017, 09:19:00 AM »
Years ago rattled in bucks quite often. Like everything else it has been over done, I can't tell you how many times I hear rattling several time in one setting and it is not deer. Same with scents.

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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2017, 09:29:00 AM »
I’ve rattled a good bit and only called up 2 or 3 bucks. We hunt private land in MS but it is highly pressured. I think the deer are too cautious to come in during daylight unless you just catch a buck in the right mood or a young one out of curiosity
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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2017, 09:56:00 AM »
I have had great success and not so great.  I use grunts and rattling/clashing trying to break antlers also. Kick leaves and brush.  More noise the better.  The deer do have to be in an aggressive mood.  We can't control that.

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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2017, 10:32:00 AM »
I've killed several that I rattled in in KS and TX. No luck anywhere else i've hunted. The grunt tube is far superior for me.
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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2017, 11:24:00 AM »
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Ah.....great memories rattling.....

This is my FIRST Trad Deer...First on the Ground...First Rattled in.... First deer kill on the family land my Great Great Grandfather homesteaded...and it was on a Thanksgiving morning...

     
WOW !    Terry what a memory,  that's fantastic. Now I can understand a little more of your personality.  I think that's the best memory that I've heard someone talk about.  I don't think that one can be matched.  Good luck on your hunting this year.

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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2017, 01:21:00 PM »
I've only rattled in does. Shot two of them (pre-trad). I think a spike came looking on one of them, but from a different direction. No antlered bucks.
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Re: Anyone else had zero luck rattling?
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2017, 01:30:00 PM »
I had a farm in northern MO that I hunted for 28 years until it was sold last year. I rattled in multiple bucks there every year. Around my place a few miles outside of St. Louis , I try rattling every year cause I know it can work. I'll manage to rattle one in every 5 or 6 years. I think the main thing is deer population and ratio of bucks to does.
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