Was blessed to get invited on a managment hunt in the lone star state and even more blessed to harvest a doe and a funky little 8 pointer. What a season it's been, I had my first traditional harvest this year and these make my 3rd and 4th kills for the season. 60" silvertip (by Dave) #52@28, CE Heritage 150's with 5 grain per inch weight tubes and Zwicky Deltas up front. 640gr total weight. Both deer hit perfect with holes on both sides, 60-80 yard recovery. Big thanks to this site and all the great people and information on it!