The deer that John has a photo of on here, was about the size of the one I shot, the only problem is that was with the traditional bow 30 years ago,(1974), and it was on a wild game refuge, so I also had the deer stolen from me, shot the doe with a passthrough on both lungs, some guy and his kids found it and claimed, not a course before I raised a ruckus about it.
We all had to check or deer in (Indiana game refuge) and when he put his on the scale, I yelled from the back of the crowd of about 50 guys checking in their deer, " that's my deer" the conservation officer didn't listen the first time, so I yelled again, and he asked me what the story was, he looked at the guy and said " what's your story, the guy told him, and I told the conservation officer stick your finger into the 2 in. hole, and I asked him did that kill the deer, he said no, but this gentleman has the deer tagged, I can't take the tag off. He gave me the opportunity to go into a bunker, and take any deer that I wanted,
They went in and night after everyone left, and collected the deer that people then find, clean them and hung the cool bunker, I was 25 and snotty, so I said " give him that choice I want my deer" I went home deerless !
That person shirted teaches three kids some bad hunting ethics.
I've learned long ago, it's not about the end, it's about the journey, and how you proceed with difficulties.
Carl
Still looking for my second traditional !