The Torges seat is good, I've made several, but the Anywhere Chair is better (IMO). Much more comfortable, more verstable..coorked trees or no trees..doesn't matter, and easier to setup...just lean it against a tree (when there is one)or use the third leg when no tree. Since I started hunting on the ground a couple years ago, I've tried everything from turkey stools, niff-t-seat, all terrain stool, doublebull 3 leg seat..you name it....but this is the best ground hunting seat I've found so far.