joebuck, We ain't making these to make a killin'. Really at what we were asking for them $84.95 , we put the pack straps and then ship them we don't make hardly anything at all.Ray made the comment we were going up on them to 99.00. I ain't doing no pressure button thingy. I make them 36" long so the seat is 20" off the ground, and the buyer can cut them to there desired height. Biggie , I got you covered! As far as a hunt with Schuster , Kroger has Campbell's soup on sell so it wouldn't take much money to feed his sorry butt.