Howard hill 2pc

[Ari_Bonn]

I've been looking for a 2pc longbow for some time. and I think id like to order either a straight limb or mild r/d.

Can anyone chime on in on how the grip feels with the td sleeve?

[centaur]

I have one in a Cheetah. A bit thicker than without the t/d, but not much. The sleeve is very stable.

[ron w]

I have a Wesley Sp. and an Ruffed Grouse from Hill. Just a bit fatter and adds a bit of mass to the riser......I like them both. A simple and fool proof set up.

[David Mitchell]

Well, it feels more round than I personally like.  I had one of the large size and just didn't bond with it. I like other methods of making a 2 piece better.

If you are looking for a really easy 2 piece that looses nothing for looks and feel, look at the Robertson Stykbows.  Whether an ASL or a mild R/D would be best for you, may depend on how you shoot.  If you shoot with a straighter bow arm, you may prefer the Robertson longbow over an ASL.  Of course, even if your shooting form resembles Howard Hill the R/D will work, it all depends on one's personal strengths and weaknesses.  I have two weaknesses, my draw length varies about a half inch depending on stature and shooting position, and sometimes I have a very hard release.  In other words a 30 yard shot can be off 5" with one of my ASLs, but may be 10" with my R/D.   Not all ASLs are created equal, I feel that mine are above average, same goes for mild R/Ds.  I suppose a good compromise would be to get an R/D where your draw length would come in at the lower end of the optimal draw for that bow length.   I have made good longer shots with both, but when it comes to the fast and furious creatures like rabbits and pheasants, I am better with my particular ASLs.  I know, I was responding to both of your threads..

[Gil Verwey]

I have two Harrison and had black widow and 3 Hill two piece longbows. I liked them all very much.

The Hill looked very thick to me but it didn't feel that way when I got them. The Hills were straight limbs and the others RD.

I would decide which type of longbow you want to shoot then just pick a bowyer or look for a used one.

Gil

[nineworlds9]

I think you'd really like a 2pc Wes Wallace Royal. He uses the locket-socket system like Big Jim, Widow and Caribow now.  The Royal is a D shaped bow with high performance.

[ron w]

Originally posted by nineworlds9:
I think you'd really like a 2pc Wes Wallace Royal. He uses the locket-socket system like Big Jim, Widow and Caribow now.  The Royal is a D shaped bow with high performance.

Last I checked Wes Wallace uses the brass and steel sleeve same a Hill does, does offer it as a locator grip.

[nineworlds9]

Ron he switched recently.  He'll still do the brass on request.

Here's a Royal with the new system

 

[Steelhead]

I had the Wallace with the brass/steel sleeve.I also have had a few Fox Breeds and Whippensticks longbows and recurves.All these were done excellently.

All the ones I have had were the small size sleeve.They come in small and large.Large would be too big for my taste.Some guys with bigger hands would like the large size and it would be extra strong IMO with more material inside the hardware.Whether its wood or phenolic.

These grips are easily modified by bowyers using bondo.I have had shallow locator and pistol grips done on them.

I love the locket socket as well.Who wouldn't.

One of the things I like about the brass/steel is the heft of the hardware right under your hand.It adds a little mass weight in the perfect spot.

I never had a problem with either the locket/socket or brass/steel.Other than it can be tough to get them apart at times on either one.Probably a vacuum seal.

[Ari_Bonn]

Thanks everyone I appreciate it

[ron w]

 Wes still shows the sleeve on the web site.......thanks for the up date, good to know!!!

[MnFn]

I have only tried one, a Liberty Chief.  Not a sleeve type but it worked very well.

 Allen Boice, the bowyer is a great guy to work with.