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Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« on: May 30, 2009, 01:05:00 AM »
I know lots of folks know about footing carbons but just as many don't know how to do it.  My wife filmed me as I explain how I make my stumpers.  This is the toughest stumping arrow I have ever seen.  Hope it helps someone that is interested but isn't sure how to go about footing an arrow.

I had to make it in 3 sections so it would play on photobucket.  each segment is about 2 minutes long.

See you in the stumping woods.

 

 

 
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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2009, 01:17:00 AM »
Thanks Pac.

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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2009, 01:33:00 AM »
I called the nock a insert a few times.  I guess that's why I'm not a moviestar.  Can't get all of the lines right.   :knothead:    Still I think anyone will understand what I'm talking about by watching the video.
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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2009, 02:01:00 AM »
That was awesome!

Thanks!

I've got all the supplies to make 3 extra arrows.
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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2009, 06:12:00 AM »
Very nice   :thumbsup:  I use JB weld, but after watching this I'm going to give the Gorilla glue a shot, I have used it on my fishing arrows and it works good on those.
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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2009, 08:29:00 AM »
Very good videos.  :thumbsup:    :clapper:

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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2009, 09:28:00 AM »
Nice vidio Duane.  Nothing like seeing it versus just reading about it.  Thanks

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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2009, 11:57:00 AM »
The 1.5" sleeve will add around 20 gr to the tip according to my powder scale.  Since I have a bunch of 125 gr magnus 2 blades I have basically made them into 145 gr heads.  

The fletch cap doesn't affect the arrow any differently than a non capped arrow.  I have shot groups with both intermingled and for me they all shot the same.

These videos are for CE 150.  If you use a different shaft you will have to find out which size aluminum will work for you.  Everything else should be the same though.

If you have tapered shafts I don't believe you can cut off the arrow at the nock end like the CE's.  If you can't I don't think you would want to use this method because once the glue sets it is permanent.
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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2009, 01:18:00 PM »
yip just like i do mine! nice videos Pac   :notworthy:    :clapper:
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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2009, 10:32:00 PM »
Nice videos! Thanks have never done, might have to try it!
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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2009, 08:42:00 AM »
That’s a nice video you have come up with. I did try, to foot a CX250 with a 2117 and found it to be around .010 too small. The CX250s O.D. measured .305. I ended up going with the 2216 and around .006 - .007 slop.

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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2009, 08:58:00 AM »
Blackstick, going by the dimensions, a 2219 should be a perfect fit, .006 smaller ID than the 2216.
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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2009, 09:41:00 AM »
Same way I do mine, the other day, I made a 10yard shot at what I thought was an old rusty one pound coffee can... It turned out to be a rock! My arrow hit so hard, it blew the insert out,never to be found again. But the arrow is still in great shape on both ends. I just installed a new insert and am still shooting that arrow!

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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2009, 09:54:00 AM »
I am going over to my stock of "fixin'" arrows right now!

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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2009, 10:25:00 AM »
In case some of you do not realize the Easton arrow numbers designate measurements. The first 2 numbers are 64ths of an inch outside and the second set of numbers are the wall thickness in thousandths.  So a 2216 is 22/64" outside with a .019" wall.
The diameter of the hole inside the alum shaft is the outside dimension of the arrow minus twice the wall thickness.
21/64=.328"
22/64=.343"
Just subtract 2 times the wall thickness of you arrow for the inside dimension.

2115 is .328 O.D.-.030(2x.015" wall)= .298" I.D.

2117 is .294" I.D.
2213 is .317" I.D.
2216 is .311" I.D.
2219 is .305" I.D.
Hope this helps....and check my math  :readit:
       
I have noticed the outside dimensions of carbon arrows are different even if they are the same spine number, especially if they do or do not have a silk screened wood grain or camo on them.
I guess I'm suggesting you measure the carbons before making up the aluminum sleeves.

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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2009, 12:24:00 PM »
Nice videos Pac   :thumbsup:
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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2009, 12:55:00 PM »
Gorilla Gru is cheaper than Gorilla Glue if you happen to run across some while shopping.   :)  

Glad everyone has liked the videos.
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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2009, 01:04:00 PM »
Great job thanks for sharing.   :thumbsup:

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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2009, 02:02:00 PM »
My epoxy died. Can I use Superglue gel?

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Re: Make a bomb proof stumping arrow (video)
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2009, 03:45:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Killdeer:
My epoxy died. Can I use Superglue gel?

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I don't know about superglue.  Only thing I have used is 2 ton epoxy and Gorilla glue.  IMO gorlilla glue is the easier of the two to work with.  No mixing involved.
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