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Offline Steve Humphrey

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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #100 on: February 06, 2011, 12:16:00 PM »
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Have you tried or heard of someone using Birchwood-Casey's Tru-oil as a finish over stain?

I like to use it for refinishing gun stocks.  It goes on easily by hand and cures to a nice hard finish.
i use tru-oil extensively in guitar making, and it works just fine for arrow making, too!  

it's really a toss-up 'tween min-wax wipe-on or tru-oil ... the min-wax is much easier to find at home depot or lowes.  they both do a yeoman job for woodie finishing.   :thumbsup:  [/b]
I use tru-oil on my ash shafts. I have found poly tends to lay on top of the hardwoods and can haze up and peel if exposed to moisture. The tru-oil soaks into the wood and seems to be more durable. Ash will tend to un-straighten itself if not sealed well.
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #101 on: February 06, 2011, 12:53:00 PM »
That is awesome.
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #102 on: February 06, 2011, 12:58:00 PM »
up next - how i fletch for feather burning.  i'll do a classic 3 fletch helical shield burnt cut.
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #103 on: February 06, 2011, 01:16:00 PM »
Rob:

Have you ever tried "Lin-speed"  I like it better than tru Oil as it will take a thinning of terps and still perform the same.
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #104 on: February 06, 2011, 01:27:00 PM »
lin-speed, oh yeah.  spent years with that stuff, it works well, too.  best part is that it can be 'refreshed' by thinning.
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #105 on: February 06, 2011, 02:11:00 PM »
I love working with wood. This seems like a lot of fun.
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #106 on: February 06, 2011, 06:03:00 PM »
burning feathers

i've sharpie crested the remaining 6 woodies, and even did an under-fletch crest.  i'll be fletching up with trueflight graybarred turks and burning them to shape after they're on the shafts. the 3 fletches for each arrow will be 5-1/4" long and i've created a 'fat' hi-back shield shape in a new nichrome burning wire for the young burner.  i'll be using a cheap bohning fletching jig with a left wing helical clamp.  as always, feathers will be stuck on with bohning fletch tape.

first, cut cut down a buncha full length trueflights to 5-1/4" lengths.  i like to angle the front of the quill back towards the nock end ...

 

... and the back of the quill towards the point end - these angles make for a better transition of the quill to the shaft.

 

 

 

this part is the same as i did for the 4-fletch banana fletching - put a shaft into the fletching jig, feather into the clamp - note there's a mark on the clamp where the back of the fletch lines up with, put tape on the quill base, remove the tape's plastic backing, and the clamp onto the jig, press down *firmly* and then do it again ...

 

 

 
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #107 on: February 06, 2011, 06:05:00 PM »
do the same for the remaining two fletches - pull off the clamp, rotate the jig for the next feather, put a new fletch into the clamp ...
    
 

 

when all fletched up, pull out the arrow and snip off the rear of the feathers with a scissor to make it easier for feather burning ...

 

whether it's a new wire shape or an old one, always check the the wire with a bare shaft of the type yer about to fletch, to make sure the wire is just barely away from the shaft, then load in a feathered shaft ...

 

 

my feather burn connects to an on/off momentary footswitch, so i tap and hold the footswitch as the wire heats up and when it just starts to glow orange-red i carefully rotate the shaft to trim all three feathers, and the remove weight on the switch to stop the wire heating up, and remove the arrow ...

 

 

 
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #108 on: February 06, 2011, 06:05:00 PM »
a 3 pack of burnt feather woodies with fat helical fletchings ...

 

 
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #109 on: February 06, 2011, 06:22:00 PM »
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... As far as cost, would it be a cost effective altervative to aluminum or carbon?
woodies are a labor of love.  

since finishing, and possibly straightening, is always part of woodie crafting, there is more expense and time involved than making carbons or alums.

i love woodies and will always build and shoot them ... but without a doubt, carbons are the most durable, and consistent with regards to both accuracy and climate, and easiest to craft arrows of all shafting material readily available today. [/b]
The thought of making my own arrows, sure sounds appealing, but I was curious, how the cost of making them from wood compares to buying finished arrows of carbon and aluminum.  The last dozen of alum. cost me around 75.00 if I remeber right.

I am waiting on my first trad bow to arrive in a few weeks, and after a season or two of shooting and hunting, I would also love to attempt to build my own self bow, and wooden arrows just seem to be natural.  Maybe I just dream to big,
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #110 on: February 06, 2011, 06:41:00 PM »
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[... I am waiting on my first trad bow to arrive in a few weeks, and after a season or two of shooting and hunting, I would also love to attempt to build my own self bow, and wooden arrows just seem to be natural.  Maybe I just dream to big,
without our dreams we are automaton creatures living out the dreams of others.  be thankful for your dreams.  :)
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #111 on: February 06, 2011, 06:51:00 PM »
After following this thread,I'm kinda embarassed how much I spent setting up to build woodies.LOL.Thanks for your efforts,gonna try this way soon.BTW,who's a good source for the surewoods?Thanks again.
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #112 on: February 06, 2011, 06:54:00 PM »
I LOVE WOODEN ARROWS!!!   :clapper:   Them and the Wooden, Spring Loaded, "1 Billion and One Uses" Clothespins!! Ah, Life Is Good!!  :clapper:   Well Done Sir!!  :clapper:
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #113 on: February 06, 2011, 07:01:00 PM »
i'm not sure if other trad gang sponsors offer surewoods, but i get mine from tim @  braveheart archery
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #114 on: February 06, 2011, 07:33:00 PM »
Woodamon, Braveheart is definately a great place to buy the Surewoods. My experience from buying other items from Braveheart is they have very quick service. But you can also buy shafts directly from Surewood Shafts.
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #115 on: February 06, 2011, 08:32:00 PM »
Great instructual post Rob.
I really appreciate your efforts in sharing your experience/knowledge.
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #116 on: February 06, 2011, 08:35:00 PM »
another 3 pack of burnt feather woodies with fat helical fletchings hot off the burner not 10 minutes ago ...

   

   
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #117 on: February 06, 2011, 08:48:00 PM »
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a 3 pack of burnt feather woodies with fat helical fletchings ...

   

   
OUTSTANDING Rob , I like um   :thumbsup:
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #118 on: February 06, 2011, 09:02:00 PM »
Thanks gentlemen,looked at the site for Braveheart.Think I'll order a dozen.So the Bohning fletch tape is compatible with any finish?Thanks again...
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Re: crafting excellent woodies
« Reply #119 on: February 06, 2011, 09:05:00 PM »
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....So the Bohning fletch tape is compatible with any finish?Thanks again...
absolutely.
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