Form vid

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Rod, but we're having so much fun disecting it.  If you don't tear it open, how will you know what's inside?

So, with all your answering to our questions, perhaps it will help us to better understand the shot process.  ??

[Terry Green]

Originally posted by SHOOTO8S:
... and perhaps show that basic archery form is  about muscles and alignment,,whether shooting upright or leaning over and canting a bunch...its still about getting a good line!

Yep, couldn't agree more.  We tried our best to hammer that down on the form pics thread.  Proper alignment can be taken with you to many positions, shot angles, and cant angles.

[Donald Clark]

The problem is that Rod's form is really good and his points of explanation are the best I have heard.

Unfortunately, when a person varies from that form and shot execution it simply hurts accuracy potential. Of course there are various things one could do differently than Rob and still shoot well, such as shoot faster or slower, or cant the bow;  but such things as trying to hold the bow up after the shot, using a "hard" anchor, etc. can only hurt ultimate accuracy potential. Take a look at some of the videos on this site of Howard Hill and some of his "old time" buddies.  Except for the canting and speed of shooting, their form looks very, very similar to Rod's.

That said, I have personally witnessed people who have horrible form by any standards and who are plenty accurate enough at unknown distances out to 25 yards or so to be very effective at hunting, and even shoot very respectable 3D scores. However, using Rod's textbook form, or something very close, is surely going to make it easier for anyone who is trying to improve his/her shooting.

Don

[Josh_IOWA]

Is after the shot bow movement affected by the type of grip you use on the bow?   It seems like low wrist pushes down more from the vid.  Maybe that is just my impression.  Also the angle your left arm is to your body?

I never thought about how hard the anchor is.  That is something new to think on.  

Is it harder to become reasonably proficient with a dead release or a more fluid one?  I've been trying for a dead one because I can kinda tell my brain to do that and it will.  The fluid one seems harder to keep consistent.  Sometimes it works great.....but is it harder to get good at it?  thanks that vid is a good topic for discussion.

[Mark Fedrizzi]

........this is a great form video--thanx--Mark

[Bill Curlis]

Rod,
Wanted to let you know the string is working well.  Shot a bear with it this October.

[gitnbetr]

Rod,
Terrific video.  It has made it a lot easier to visualize the change I am trying to make in my release, though I know it will be a LONG time before I can feel as natural as you look!
When you shot 297 on a 300 round, what was your set-up? Bow, weight, arrows, etc.?
Mike

[SHOOTO8S]

Sorry ...haven't had much compter time lately

 Hey Bill ...glad the strings is working for you...congrats on your Bear!

 Walter...yeah we gonna have to go hunting a little before season's over...my apoligies, that we haven't already been hunting.

 Hi Mike....how are you and that sweetheart one pc ACS getting along? It was a mistake letting O.L. get that one back...lol
 I was shooting my 3D, hunting and target bow...ACS-CX 3pc 41@28 Carbon Express CXL 150's @32'' and have since swapped to Super Carbon 30-45's

[John Krause]

Just caught this clip. Where have I been? Curious as to what your gap is (20yds) and how much arrow is in front of the bow?

Thanks

[gitnbetr]

I need this back to the top so it is easier to find as I watch it every day!

[dhm]

Outstanding.

[akoutdoors]

Q: How do you shave 5 inches off of your 15yd group in 2 minutes or less???
A: Watch Rod in this video!
Thanks very much Rod. I'm going to stick with this sport.

[steve morley]

Nice shooting Rod, the key to every aspect of your shooting form is that you're relaxed in control and repeat the shot the same way every time.

Thanks for sharing.

P.S what poundage are you shooting?

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2004 IFAA world longbow champ

[SHOOTO8S]

Steve....the black ACS-CX is 41@28 and the FITA rig is [email protected] the clips shooting the CX were taken a few weeks after my 04 shoulder surgery...I was far from relaxed ..lol

akoutdoors....do stick with this great sport!

[akoutdoors]

Thanks for bringing this ttt. It is part of my practice routine.
Rod, Thanks for sharing your "secrets". Where can I learn more about "lining up" and using my skeletal system?
Brian

[Scooter]

Larry Skinner has an excellant book and video regarding this.  I can't remeber if links are allowed here, but do a google search for;

Archery Shot Execution: A Total Muscle Control Approach by Larry Skinner

It is more directly related to target recurves but as Rod's video shows, good form (and alignment) carry over.

Scott

[swampbuck]

The owners manual that comes with a formaster training devise is quite specific about proper alighnment LOL so much so that a simplton like me had to read it a couple times to understand the big words LOL.....on the plus side it does have illustrations to help with understanding.I may be able to help ya come up with one just PM me and I,ll look around if your interested.

[SHOOTO8S]

The Skinner book that Scooter mentioned, seemed good from the quick scan threw it I did and Like Swampbuck says the manual that comes with the formaster is very detailed.

[Butts2]

Rod -
TTT
How long do you actually take between arrows?
Are you rehashing just what happened?
Are you thinking of all positives bow arm , anchor timing etc for the next arrow?

[SHOOTO8S]

Butts....I practice in stages....one day its all back tension, another day bowarm etc.. When I'm actually only shooting groups or for score....I only think about aiming....hopefully I have all the other stuff down to the point , the subconscious takes care of it and I can only think about aiming....but I do have a day for timing...time from the beginning of draw to anchor and time from anchor to release and the timing of each shot..ideally you should give your muscles a minute or two between shots