Form vid

[SHOOTO8S]

Guy's I put together a short vid of a dozen or so shots, with a few shooting the FITA bow...hopefully to show than the basic archery form is all the same..whether your shooting a self bow to a full blown FITA rig.
  video

[MDbowhunter]

of course you are a skilled archer.

I am just curious where you anchor with your barebow bows.  It kind of looks like you have a "floating" anchor, maybe it is just the video but it appears to be off of your face.  

While it appears you have a good dynamic release, in one of those shots it looks like you come forward to find your anchor.  For most people coming forward causes a colapse in back tension and negatively effects the release.

Also, do you shot point on or gunbarrel.  I asked because it looks like you have a high anchor

[Double Creek]

Thanks Rod, that was great......

[SHOOTO8S]

"I am just curious where you anchor with your barebow bows."

 Wayne, when using a side of face anchor...I'm using a deep hook on the string and middle finger anchored on a molar tooth...with some of the shot clips being a few years old, some are a corner of the mouth anchor.

I changed from my normal corner of mouth anchor, for the very reason you mentioned.......when I drew the bow to a proper line...I needed to come forward to find my anchor, then increase back tension...I finally bit the bullet and decided to move my anchor farther back.

 I shoot gap

[JC]

Great video Rod! Really appreciate you sharing it. Super consistent form.

[Yohon]

"I shoot GAP"        

You are right good shooting is good shooting, but I still dont know how you hit any critters holding that long          :D  

It is nice to put a face with the name.Thanks for taking the time and posting it for everyone to see.  

[Terry Green]

Originally posted by swampbuck:
I notice everybody has the same ending hand position,
coinsidence??????  

Maybe cause its all of the same person?

Yohon....yeah...I hear ya, ....when he got to anchor, the suspence was killing me!!!

In all seriousness.......Thanks Rod....looking machine like in the clips.

[swampbuck]

LOL guess I was lookin at the shot more than the person LOL Thanx again

[Bill Curlis]

Rod,
Top notch, of course I've seen it in person.

[SuperKodiak38]

Rod,
With all due respect to your talent, it appears that you are dropping your bow arm. Can you elaborate on why this is not effecting your shooting? Thanks.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Man, how can you hold the bow up so straight.    :eek:  

Good clip.  And yes, very consistant.  And consistancy is what it takes.

Just to confirm, and perhaps for an explaination I can pass on; please explain why your bow goes out and down upon release.

I say it's follow through and due to back tension.

[MDbowhunter]

Thanks Rod.

Did you make the change before or after the 2004 worlds?

[jhansen]

I don't care if he floats his anchor, drops his bow arm slightly, or spits on his arrow before each shot.  It obviously works for him.      We should all wish we were good enough to be a World Champion.  Thanks Rod!

John

[SuperKodiak38]

Don't get me wrong folks. I am not an archer of his ability. I am making an observation and asking a question, that's how I learn.

[SHOOTO8S]

Thanks guys!

Bill....I always enjoy shooting with you and other shooters of your caliber...brings out one's best game!

 SK38.....how many times have you heard...on release...do nothing ? I dont try and control the bow, preferring to simply let the bow shoot....if you "do nothing" the bow will move forward on release, with the weight of the bow exerting itself on the bow hand well after the arrow has left the bow and continue moving its self to the left(right hand shooter) due to the inabilty to ever have the bow hand directly in the center of the bows power stroke and the back tension in the bow arm side of the back.... the key is to maintain back tension until the arrow clear the bow, then the bow doesn't need any help in doing its job.....clear as mud huh?  

Lost Hawg ...hope the above answers your question

 Wayne...I changed anchors after the 05 worlds....after fighting with an anchor that was un-conductive to a good line....I wish I had made the change years ago!

[SuperKodiak38]

Thanks for the reply.

I thought it was a result of your "pushing" toward the target to maintain back tension. Obviously once the arrow is clear the bow can do what ever it wishes without effecting arrow flight.

I asked the question because when I run my shot if I feel my arm drop I will see an effect on arrow flight, ussually low. If I don't try to correct it, on the bail right away, it can quickley become habit for me.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Sounds about like what I said except a little more expansive.      

Follow through is about the most forgotten parts of the shot.

[SHOOTO8S]

SK38... Ask questions! I surely do......I asked the same questions, the first time I really watched a world class shooter in action....the bow arm dropping went against all I understood at that time, then it was explained that when using bone structure and back tension to shoot the bow, the object was to remove any unneeded tension in not only the release side , but bow arm as well...and it takes tension in the forearm to keep the bow from moving AFTER the limbs return to brace.

 I forgot to add.....Ok on the floating anchor question...each shot there was a defininte anchor point.....I was trained to establish a solid and easy to repeat anchor point....not to anchor hard against the face or lay into the string....reason being....if your using muscle tension to lay into the string hard....what happens on release?? Often the head will move..sometimes slightly, sometimes the head will move a good deal..breaking concentration on target and often the bow hand will follow the eyes...before the arrows clears the bow.

 The object in posting the clip, is not an attempt to suggest anyone use my style of shooting, but to maybe explain some of the dynamics involved(I suck at explaining ) and perhaps show that basic archery form is  about muscles and alignment,,whether shooting upright or leaning over and canting a bunch...its still about getting a good line!

[SuperKodiak38]

I appreciate your sharing your video and taking the time, and having the patience, to deal with the questions. So much is said about what is perfect form. More should be said about perfect execution. Thanks Rod.

[JC]

Originally posted by SHOOTO8S:
I forgot to add.....Ok on the floating anchor question...each shot there was a defininte anchor point.....I was trained to establish a solid and easy to repeat anchor point....not to anchor hard against the face or lay into the string....reason being....if your using muscle tension to lay into the string hard....what happens on release?? Often the head will move..sometimes slightly, sometimes the head will move a good deal..breaking concentration on target and often the bow hand will follow the eyes...before the arrows clears the bow.

After shooting with Rod and having a discussion about this, I made my anchor even more "ethereal"...it just barely touches my anchor point now and it's away. Really minimized the negative effects I was sometimes getting on a really "hard" anchor.