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Offline J-KID

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Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« on: May 11, 2006, 01:30:00 PM »
There have been a couple threads on here regarding target panic.  I don't know how many of you have the problem, however, I do know that real help is available.  I know it's hard to believe, however, we have had 100% success with the interventions in my revised book.  I'm not trying to sell books because I am openly offering to help anyone on this site via email with their target panic.

Here is a testimonial from Charles Land who is a "Master Learning Facilitator For the Coaching Association of Canada, as well, I am also an NFAA Master Coach at the Pro level 4."

"Dear Jay . . . I have been working with archers from several countries that include Canada, USA, Holland and England and it is absolutely amazing that, without exception, I have had a 100% success rate on the cure of their respective degrees of target panic. These archers are all at the advanced, up to and including, one that is an Olympic archer.  It makes me feel very special when I look and see the expression on their face when they come to realize that there is a cure and now a future.  This is outstanding information and I would just like to thank you for helping me to become a more competent coach and trainer of coaches. This information is now going to form part of my seminars ( yes . . . I will be giving you your just credit ) when I work with various levels of coaches and athletes."

Basically, target panic can be identified by the symptoms.  Either you experience a premature release or a premature hold.  A premature release is most common with instinctive shooters and a premature hold is most common with sight or gap shooters.  Often, the premature hold is followed by a push toward the target and a sometimes violent release or plucking in an effort to release the arrow in the direction of the bullseye.

There are many other causes for slumps in accuracy and missing.  Many of these are also discussed in the book.  I can also help you with these problems if they go beyond the everyday struggles that all of us have (and enjoy to some degree) as we try to perfect our shooting.

You can email me with a detailed description of your symptoms and I'll be happy to help.  (Actually, I am supposed to be grading out psychology exams and am looking for a distraction.)  Target panic robs the joy of archery from far too many and if I can help you find that joy again I will be pleased.  Email me at [email protected] and we'll see what we can do.

Jay Kidwell, Ph.D. (Post hole Digger!)
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2006, 02:22:00 PM »
Thanks Jay!  :readit:    "[heman]"

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2006, 03:19:00 PM »
I'd like to throw my thanks out to you as well, Jay.  I had it bad after trying to shoot in an indoor league last winter.  A friend told me about your book.  I bought it and read it cover to cover the day it arrived.  It helped me through it and I'm back on track.  I just wish I could have shared my fresh, grilled wild turkey I had for dinner last night, taken with my longbow, as thanks!

Jeff

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2006, 05:21:00 PM »
Thanks for the testimonials that target panic can be beat, and the late invite for turkey.  Right now, we have a dozen Trad Gang members who will be working through this process.  It's only May so that should put them back in the hunt come Fall.  Any additional takers?
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2006, 05:33:00 PM »
Jay, What's the name of your book, and where can I get it?
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2006, 05:58:00 PM »
"Instinctive Archery Insights - Revised Edition"

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2006, 06:18:00 PM »
I have received many emails regarding target panic and my plan is to respond to each by the end of the evening.  It's raining so my bow will hang on the wall above my computer, my grading can wait and I'll turn the TV so I can watch the Reds game while I type.  Keep them coming!
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2006, 06:29:00 PM »
Jay,

I ordered your book from Three Rivers about a month ago when I was in the middle of another training program to "cure" me when it arrived.  It was just a short article written by Larry Yien, and his method seems to be similar to what you advocate.

I was releasing as soon as I hit anchor with a violent pluck every few shots.  I bought a clicker which helped, but as soon as I removed it, I was back to my old habits.  

I tried visualizing that the target was something I did not want to shoot (such as my pet lab or loved one or...) and that helped for only a few shots.  I would revert back to the old habits in a short time.  :scared:

Larry's method was to try a week long regimen of drawing to anchor and holding for several seconds without releasing.  After a week long of this, he said to draw, hold and release.  I tried this and it worked some, however, at the last 3-D shoot I attended I began the quick release thing again. :knothead:

As for your book, I only read the last chapter on target panic.  You have the best description of what transpires in the afflicted person's mind I have ever read.  I think this is a good beginning for someone seeking a cure.  I have gone back to the weeklong beginning routine of training my little brain once again.

I am ready for any advice, video, audio, etc. that can have a positive effect.  Archery has been a part of my life for over 50 years and I am not willing to give it up without a fight.      :confused:
Lon Scott

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2006, 09:02:00 PM »
Wow!  I think I have emailed all that have requested help to this point.  If I missed you, notify me.

Once again, anyone wanting some personalized help with target panic - this is your chance.  Or actually, you can email me anytime I guess.  When your techniques are 100% successful it's fun to help!

ttt
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2006, 09:50:00 PM »
Jay,
Thanks for the email, I'll give your advise a try starting tomarrow.  :thumbsup:  
  Dave
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2006, 11:18:00 PM »
Jay--Thanks for the info. I will be trying your suggestions. I will let you know in a couple of weeks on how things are going for me! Peace!!

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2006, 11:41:00 PM »
Jay,

I sent you an email. Not about TP, about something else.

Danny
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2006, 12:04:00 AM »
Danny - I have not received the email yet.  I'll check in the morning or you can send a personal message.  Jay
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2006, 02:21:00 AM »
Ok, I'm another one that could use some help.  Its very late night so I'll have to elaborate at another time.

I've actually been wondering if some kind of hypnotism might help?!?

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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2006, 06:42:00 AM »
I am a certified hypnotherapist, so if all else fails . . .

Get the details to me Steve and we'll work on it.

Jay
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2006, 07:55:00 AM »
Jay,  I'm glad to see this thread and I am going to order your book directly from your sight as soon as I finish typing this response.  I have a terrible fear of missing that causes me to lose confidence.  I am an avid golfer and I have come to realize that confidence and commitment to the shot is most important in that sport.  I think that same confidence and commitment would help in archery.  I look forward to receiving your book!...And as you said, if all else fails, hypnotherapy is another option!  Thanks again - Rob
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2006, 08:24:00 AM »
Rob - the Button Technique in chapter 4 will help with your problem.  It will also improve your golf game if you don't already use a form of it now.  It deals with "stimulus confusion" where you focus more on where you don't want to hit than where you do want to hit.  Your subconscious does not comprehend do's and don'ts and typcially sends the arrow to the strongest stimulus target.  Then, you get consciously involved and try to steer the shot or compensate in some way.  Same with a par 3 over water in golf.  A golfer who is thinking more about the water than the green can dunk a ball with every club in the bag.  Actually, that is good because it proves the subconscious, which is making all the calculations, can put the ball where it wants under many circumstances.  So then, the trick is to let the subconscious know that even if you are thinking about where you don't want to hit, that is not the target.  Hence, the button technique.  You'll like it and it works.

Jay
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2006, 08:28:00 AM »
Jay,

   Not TP related,but I saw your post and figured I reply where you would see it.

   The recurve I got from you(along with your autographed book)awhile back is great.I've been shooting it quite a bit since I received,and I'm looking forward to this coming season.Even got to talk with Owen and Tom Jeffery at our Trad Shoot earlier this year.

  So,I guess I'll just lend my .02 cents and tell everyone that it's a very informative book,and puts alot of things in perspective.

Thanks for getting me "on the button"!
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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2006, 08:47:00 AM »
Mike - Thanks for updating me on the bow.  That was THE BOW!  Then I got older and my shoulder hurt more and more and now 50lb's is right.  I can shoot that weight all day now.  I'd love to know how the bow does during hunting season and I am pleased to know you have it and enjoy it.  As they say, "its got mojo!"  Jay
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2006, 06:44:00 AM »
Wow! I sent Jay Kidwell an E-mail describing my issue with TP and he promptly responded. What a great site this is! It attracts some of the most decent folks in the archery realm.

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