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Offline J-KID

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #100 on: May 23, 2007, 10:54:00 PM »
On their way.
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #101 on: May 26, 2007, 10:22:00 AM »
Jay, I sure could use those drills; can you email them to me, also?  My email address is:
[email protected]

Thanks a million.
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #102 on: June 22, 2007, 09:33:00 AM »
THIS IS AN FYI ON THE TARGET PANIC INTERVENTION.

Since I first posted this thread there have been literally hundreds of requests for help with target panic.  I have only heard positive comments regarding the speed and degree to which the drills have remedied the problem.

One thing has come to light recently typically effecting those with the highest shooting ability and the worse cases of premature release or premature hold (target panic).  The drills consistently cured the problem quickly, however, a year or so later the target panic began to resurface.  After discussing the recurrence of target panic with shooters via email or by phone it has become obvious that the relapse is a result of stopping the drills altoghther once the symptoms of target panic are gone.

I understand how a person about ready to give up shooting because of target panic, then experiencing a total remission of the symptoms after using the drills, could fall back into their old routine (without the drills) that had proven successful for so long.  It is important to emphasize the need to INTEGRATE THE DRILLS INTO ALL YOUR SHOOTING so that the target panic stays away.

Not only will this keep the associations from forming again, it will enhance your overall control and accuracy.  Many professional archery coaches require shooters to do the drills even if they do not have target panic becuase of the positive benefits to overall control and accuracy.

The drills are totally effective as a reactive intervention for target panic, however, their real strength lies in their effectiveness as a proactive prevention to target panic and a tool to enhance accuracy and control.

I'd recommend that any new archer be instructed to do the drills from the beginning for this very reason.
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #103 on: August 05, 2007, 01:35:00 PM »
ttt
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #104 on: August 05, 2007, 07:38:00 PM »
Jay,I never thanked you for your help on my tp.Don't even want to call it by name! I use your drills quite often to fight off the devil! Thank you so much!  Ben
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #105 on: August 05, 2007, 10:00:00 PM »
Hi Jay, I read your Email explaination of target panic and it makes perfect sense .Why the heck didnt I think of this after all these years !!! Anyway by retraining the brain doing the excercises you said it took a few sessions working with a light 38lb 67" longbow at varied close ranges of 5 yds to 15 yds.The improvements came slowly until today I finally mastered the 35 lb bow.I can stare at a spot and draw right to anchor and hold while I really see the arrow lined up all the way to the spot and then release .Ive broke many nocks now and split one arrow first time in my life! Im going to take this slow and move up in weight slowly so its mastered up to 60lbs.You are to be commended. I dont know why Hill or Shultz never mentioned about this problem and tips to overcome it.Surely they must have known about this.

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #106 on: August 05, 2007, 11:08:00 PM »
I'm always pleased to know that I've had some part in making this sport more enjoyable for a few people.  Thanks for the thanks.

I've heard that Fred Bear and Howard Hill both experienced tp at times and that they switched to shooting with the opposite hand.  There were no associations so the tp was gone.  When it came back they simply switched back to the natural side and the associations were gone for a while.  If this is true, along with the fact that either could outshoot most, if not all of us with either hand, what does it tell us about the importance of the dominant eye?
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #107 on: September 06, 2007, 08:23:00 PM »
Jay,
   Would you please send me your TP instructions?
Thank you for bettering the community.

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #108 on: September 12, 2007, 04:58:00 PM »
THAT'S ALL FOLKS!

I'm pleased to have been of assistance to all those who sought help for their target panic.  Thanks to those who posted, and will post, with their results.  For every person that posted their were a dozen that didn't.  It's kind of funny how excited people are to report that their target panic is gone, or much improved, from the drills but when I ask them to post their results I don't hear from some of them again.  That's life I guess.  Well, I was on Sabbatical from Christmas till last month and now I am far too busy to give free advice.  Maybe next summer I'll be able to be your personal sports psychologist again for a few months.

THE GOOD NEWS!

The good news is that the information and drills for target panic are in my book INSTINCTIVE ARCHERY INSIGHTS: REVISED EDITION.  So while it's not free it is a good deal to get rid of that dreaded target panic.  Pick up your copy from Three Rivers Archery or Lost Nation Archery (TradGang Sponsors) today and good shooting.

And remember, "keep all your shots right on the button!"  (Chapter 4)

Your brother with a bow,
Jay Kidwell
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #109 on: September 24, 2007, 05:31:00 AM »
I'm halfway through your book, Jay, and finding it very insightful, while so common sense that I'm embarrassed not to have realized the obvious points.  Thanks for your efforts!
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #110 on: November 24, 2007, 04:41:00 PM »
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #111 on: December 03, 2007, 09:48:00 PM »
Mr. Kidwell, I have read your book twice now and really enjoyed it . I do not suffer from the TP problem. My problem is attention deficit at the moment of truth. Some days I can really focus well and others I have a hard time focusing on my button. My mind wanders between picking my spot and releasing the arrow. I was wondering if you  might have some insight into this or maybe some exercises or something to increase my attention span. I know this is not required of youm but any help you could give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, DAVE
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #112 on: December 04, 2007, 08:06:00 AM »
About a year ago you sent an email to me that has changed my outlook on shooting. I struggled with TP and all but gave up the sport for about 8-9 years. I am glad to say that I am back enjoying shooting my long bow and things are really turing around with the TP.

THANKS!!
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #113 on: December 04, 2007, 11:16:00 PM »
Big'n - I'll respond in a few days.  Too busy right now.  I also need time to think about your situation.

Kyle - I'm pleased you are seeing improvement and able to enjoy shooting again.  Get the word out that there is a cure for TP.

Jay
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #114 on: December 06, 2007, 01:54:00 PM »
Jay,
I will be buying your book shortly, and I will not hesitate to spread the word. Great work!
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #115 on: December 07, 2007, 01:36:00 PM »
I emailed Jay and he responded quickly. After a half hour of using his methods, I no longer had a problem with reaching full draw and anchor. It really works, and you will wonder why you struggle with TP if you use these drills. Thanks again, Jay!
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #116 on: December 07, 2007, 07:41:00 PM »
Jay, I must be the only failure in the bunch. I have become very good at all the drills and have no problems while doing them. I just can't seem to gain the same control on an actual shot. I have been doing the drills all year while in the treestand but release before reaching anchor on actual shots. I have even been telling myself "no shot" on deer I don't want to shoot, picking a spot and drawing to full draw without even an inkling of letting go. ( I could not have done that before your book so I know some of it is sinking in) I just seem to lose control on actual shots. If you have any further input I'd appreciate it   Thanks  Greg

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« Reply #117 on: December 07, 2007, 09:50:00 PM »
Greg, you should be shooting while doing the drills.  Move through, move through, move to and shoot.  The other drills the same way.  Break it up so it does not become a pattern your brain can learn.  If you just do the drills then let down.  When you draw and shoot your brain still knows that is the pattern.  You have to teach your brain that it cannot predict when you will decide to shoot.

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #118 on: January 27, 2008, 10:25:00 PM »
I bought your original book years ago,jay,and it helped me a great deal. I might read it again.By the way the tp has been gone a long time.Thanks for writing your book.    :campfire:

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #119 on: January 28, 2008, 07:18:00 PM »
I just wanted to say Thank you Jay! I contacted Jay several weeks ago via e-mail to discuss some drills and practice ideas. Jay not only responded promptly but he took the time to explain each and every drill in detail. He obviously put alot of time and effort into his responses and he did all of this without ever meeting me or expecting any compensation.

Due to my busy travel schedule I have yet to get started on trying Jays advice. But I certainly plan to. Regardless what impressed me the most was this: Here is a man who gives his time,advice and assistance for free. That in of itself speaks volumes about the kind of man Jay obviously is!

Cheers to you Jay! Respectfully, Peter Iacavazzi

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