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Offline Ray Hammond

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #180 on: November 20, 2010, 03:16:00 PM »
Bowwild,
for some that's easy to do on targets, and oh so much more difficult when a 250 lb boar is staring you in the face at 20 yards.

Then the breathing gets fast and heavy, the blood starts boiling, and its "hurry up and SHOOOOOT before he runs off"!

I've seen it happen to the best of 'em.

Jay, I've struggled with IT at different times.... and its usually when I practice too little or TOO MUCH.

HELP!
“Courageous, untroubled, mocking and violent-that is what Wisdom wants us to be. Wisdom is a woman, and loves only a warrior.” - Friedrich Nietzsche

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #181 on: November 20, 2010, 04:14:00 PM »
Ray,
I sent you an email.
Jay Kidwell
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #182 on: November 22, 2010, 07:03:00 PM »
Jay,
Are you still offering help?

Thanks,
Ryan

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #183 on: November 22, 2010, 07:12:00 PM »
Ryan,
Email sent.
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #184 on: November 22, 2010, 11:24:00 PM »
I sent Jay an email or pm when this thread first started, years ago.  I could not get to full draw and actually felt like I would quit shooting if I could not stop the TP.  I saw IMMEDIATE improvement after doing the drills.  Now that I have done the drills, the first signs that indicate the onset of TP, I do the drills for a couple of days and I'm cured.  It's been close to five years now and I can honestly say that Jay's system has allowed me to absolutely control and beat TP.  Thanks a million Jay.  Hope I can return the favor someday.

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #185 on: November 23, 2010, 02:16:00 AM »
Jay, I've struggled with it for 40 years. When shooting a compound, I cannot squeeze the release and get a surprise release. When I went traditional, it seemed to increase and I can't hold on target. Some days are better than others but it is very frustrating. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated,
          Thanks, Jim
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #186 on: November 23, 2010, 06:18:00 AM »
Jim,
Sent you an email.

Brent,
I'm just glad to be able to share something I know with you that helps you enjoy your shooting more.
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #187 on: December 09, 2010, 08:26:00 PM »
Well Jay, heres my story.  Been shootin for over 40 yrs.  Guess I will admit I have always had target panic, just did not know what it was.  I have taken classes from world champs, an went thru a 21 day thing on a blank bale.  I usually can control it for a couple of wks. Then as I move more into longer distance shooting , it creeps back into my form.  I can shoot a back pressure release with no trigger with a compound, but cant seem to master it with my longbow or recurves.  Is there really a premanent cure for target panic?  An yea, #50 is bout my limit now also, seen elk taken with a #46 an a #50, with a pass thru.  I do not short draw, 28.5 or 29" draw.  Need some help!!!! Tys

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #188 on: December 09, 2010, 08:56:00 PM »
Bowbender pm sent
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #189 on: December 09, 2010, 09:12:00 PM »
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Originally posted by bowbenderman:
 Is there really a premanent cure for target panic?
Even though my TP was in 2001 I still have this worry that it will suddenly rear it's ugly head again, I still do my routines to keep the TP  beast at bay.

My biggest challenge last year was final shoot off at the Fita 3D world champs, a 1000+ spectators,Tv cameras 3m from your face and very tough head to head competition, it was the most nervious I've ever been but once I stepped onto the stake it was just me, the target and my shot sequence, everything else was blanked out and I kept the TP beast at bay   :)

It would have been my worst nightmare, having a sudden attack of TP in front of all those spectators.  

Some days shooting nothing and other days feels a real uphill struggle keeping confidence\\control, although I feel the beast is always lurking the shot routine and Bale exercises keep it at bay 98% of the time.

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #190 on: December 09, 2010, 09:23:00 PM »
I too have felt the ugly we call TP !!
I had it under control for the past few years but i now feel a "panick" feeling just before the shot goes off. I feel like i have very little "control" of the shot any more  :(

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #191 on: December 09, 2010, 10:00:00 PM »
Zetabow,
If you can handle that pressure you can handle anything!

Footed shaft,
Can you be more specific about what you mean by out of control?
Jay Kidwell
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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #192 on: December 09, 2010, 10:41:00 PM »
Well, i seem to rush the shot before i am ready to shoot. It feels pretty good until i am about to release and then i flinch,some times very badly. I don't seem to have control of the whole shot sequence. Bill

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #193 on: December 10, 2010, 02:40:00 AM »
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Originally posted by J-KID:
Zetabow,
If you can handle that pressure you can handle anything!
 
Exactly, now I've been through that pressure I often recall that moment to remind myself what I'm doing at the moment isn't as difficult, it helps with my confidence. I've always tried to find some positive in my shooting, even when it's no very good.

My shooting hasn't been so great this year, no TP, just not being in the groove with my shooting, best I could manage was 2nd at IFAA world Field champs this year.

Bill it sounds like youre not following you shot sequence all the way to conclusion, your worried about making a bad shot.

For me it's all about the shot sequence, I judge my shots by how well they were executed and not the end result, my subconsious soon figured out if I follow my shot routine it will be a good shot.  A case of too high expectations and too low confidence, once they're happy with each other (at a sunconsious level) the shots just happen with no real effort.

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Re: Target Panic! 100% Cure Rate - Let's Put it to the Test
« Reply #194 on: December 10, 2010, 06:22:00 AM »
Bill,
Sent you a pm.


 
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Originally posted by zetabow:
For me it's all about the shot sequence, I judge my shots by how well they were executed and not the end result, my subconsious soon figured out if I follow my shot routine it will be a good shot.  A case of too high expectations and too low confidence, once they're happy with each other (at a sunconsious level) the shots just happen with no real effort.
Excellent!
Jay Kidwell
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