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Offline R H Clark

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Shelf and feather wear?
« on: April 27, 2007, 09:25:00 AM »
I'm getting a lot of feather wear from my Dalaa. I covered the shelf rest with a larger piece because I thought the sharp ridge where the hump is was cutting my fletching.My fletching has worn a grove on the outside edge of the rest cover in less than 100 shots.Bareshafts fly good but I'm getting pieces of feather in the air on nearly every shot. I've rotated cock feather to different positions but it doesn't seem to help.  Thanks for any advise.

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Re: Shelf and feather wear?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2007, 09:41:00 AM »
Where is your nocking point?  I have had the same problem, and usually can eliminate it by raising the nocking point.  Don't be afraid to try higher than what you think might be "normal".
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Re: Shelf and feather wear?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2007, 09:43:00 AM »
I'd suggest going back to basic tuning. How do the bareshafts impact compared to fletched shafts?  You just may have a nocking point issue as well... how high is it above level? Above arrow nock or below?

Just for kicks... what arrow (spine or size), bow weight, draw length.
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Re: Shelf and feather wear?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2007, 11:45:00 AM »
Thanks guys,

My nock point is at 1/16 above center. I thought it was pretty low but I still get a little bit of nock high on my bareshafts.

My Dalaa is 53lbs at my 30in draw.Arrows are Goldtip 55-75 cut 30 1/2 with 125 tips.

Bareshafts are right on spot with fletched shafts at 20 yds.

If I adjust tiller to more even will it cause my nock high impact to be less? If it will I can raise my nock point.

I thought theses shafts would be too stiff but they were showing weak untill I lowered the point weight and the weight of the bow.

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Re: Shelf and feather wear?
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2007, 12:49:00 PM »
Wow, that is a low nock point. Something about the way I put pressure on the string, my nock points average 3/4"s. I spoke to Bob Morrison one time and he said he has a very high nocking point as well. If your shafts are way too stiff, which they could be, you will get an opposite reaction and they show weak. Shawn
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Offline R H Clark

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Re: Shelf and feather wear?
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2007, 01:21:00 PM »
Shawn,

That's what I thought also. The Dalla handbook recomends a low nock from 1/16 to 1/8 above level. I've tried up to 1/2 but my bareshafts dive very much nock high.

I'm getting very good grops with bareshafts and feathers mixed I'm just really wearing my feathers out.

I must have release issues because I find it hard to get nock high out of all my bows.

I'm working on a loser nock to string fit right now. It is tighter than I like but I didn't think it was tight enough to be the problem.

Thanks everyone for so much help, your a great bunch of folks.

Offline Ray Johnson

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Re: Shelf and feather wear?
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2007, 06:53:00 PM »
I think your shafts could be on the stiff side.

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Re: Shelf and feather wear?
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2007, 01:46:00 PM »
try a 145 or 175 tip. I think that might improve your spine + a higher nock.  Good luck
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Re: Shelf and feather wear?
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2007, 12:14:00 AM »
Guys, I just wanted to thank you for the help.

Shawn,you were right that I was getting a false reading with too stiff shafts.I had never experienced such good groups with wrong shafts before. The Dalaa is just a different class bow.

I switched to a 500 deflection shaft 377 grns.with the 125 tip. My 50lb bow is shooting 204 fps and tuned much better with no wear.

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Re: Shelf and feather wear?
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2007, 02:21:00 PM »
These guys have given you some great advice, I just want to suggest one other thing that might help.  I too use bare shaft testing, the difference for me is that even if a clean shaft gives you good launch and flight it will not show you additional contact from the quills on the base of the shaft.  I always fletch a couple of arrows just the way the shooters will be.  I then take a razor blade or knife and cut the feather off taking care not to cut the quill off.  Then shoot the bare shaft with the cock quill in the position you wish to shoot it.  I like the twelve o'clock position for my cock feather, however I have been forced to rotate on some bows to a different position.  Wear on the quill will be apparent on the rest material. I suggest building up the shelf on that particular bow, maybe a piece of leather to give it a more radiused function.  a little foot power on the rest area will give you the right idea.  Seek the least amount of contact, good flight, and good hunting.....
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Re: Shelf and feather wear?
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2007, 03:11:00 PM »
Thanks Scott,good advise

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