Carbon Spines

[timthefuelman]

I have been looking for a cross reference on the carbon shafts. Are the 3555 GT the same as the CX 150 and the Easton 500? Thank's to anyone who can help, Tim

[A.S.]

All three of these should be in the same ballpark as far as spine goes. They each will have different mass weight though (grains per inch).

[timthefuelman]

Thanks, A.S. My 3555's work great out of my 50# Widow and I am thinking of some Eastons for my 54# Ancient Spirits. I'll need to give the 400's a try. ( the 3555's fly bad out of the Ancient Spirits! )

[JCAMPBELL]

I think some CX Line Jammers would fly pretty good out of it! Hey don't you have any FatBoys left over from the training wheel days?

[Shawn Leonard]

Ya do not say what ancient spirit bow. If it is one of their recurves a Heritage 150 will fly well cut to 29"s and 175 grains up front, assuming a 28" draw. Shawn

[RRock]

For what it's worth, I don't know much about carbons so I'll tell you how cedars work out of my ThunderHawk. 60" bow 57#@28". I shoot 23/64" spined at 70-75#'s. My shafts are cut at 29-1/4" BOP. 135gr. to 160gr. up front and they fly as nice as can be. Now, maybe someone can cross reference that info into carbons.

Also with that setup of 135-160gr. only a very slight adjustment do I need to make out to 45 yards. I also get my quarters worth at a 28" draw length.

[timthefuelman]

I love the cedars but I miss to many targets and bust to many arrows. I wish I could but my pocket can't take it!!!

[mark land]

500 Easton/Beman's are just slightly stiffer then 35/55 Goldtips, but the 400's are just about the same as the 55/75's.  If that helps.  Mark

[timthefuelman]

Thank's Mark, That is about the answer to the question!!

[Bird Dog]

I've found the 500s work great with 50 to 55 pound bows but you may need to use a heavy head to soften them up just a little.

[DesertDude]

Tim,  35/55 GT are rated .500 spine  55/75 GT are rated .400 spine  easton Axis are rated per spine(axis500= .500spine) most MFG web sites will also give you the rated spine for the type of carbon shaft. the real kicker is when you test the spine yourself and find them to be different than they are rated.  I have found some right on and some that are way off. Mark

[timthefuelman]

Thank's Mark, I too seem to have some on and some off. I got the " bare shaft " close and 2 of the fletched arrows won't fly well.

[DesertDude]

Tim,  good luck with your search. There are so many options out there. I just use the MFG Specs as a starting point and go from there. Mark

[snag]

So, if I am shooting a R/D longbow at 53# which would work better GT3555s or 5575s? I like shooting 160gr heads.

[snag]

I forgot to say it is a center cut Vortex.

[DesertDude]

Snag, I'm by no means an expert, I have been playing with carbons since they first came out while working at the local archery shop I help build. Bow length, draw length, type of string all play into the mix. Along with your shooting style. What is the total weight of the point and insert?  Another question is what total arrow weight are you looking for? with this information I can get you real close.....Mark

[Mint]

I'm having problems getting carbons fly out of my 55lb palmer recurve. So far the beman 500's cutto 29" w/125gr point are the only ones that fly well. I wantto shoot the 220gr phantoms for hunting so i am going to try the 400's.

[Pullonmylimb]

Snag,  I think you can probably get either to work.  The heavier spined arrows will just ask for a heavier point weight at the same length than the weaker spined arrows.  I can shoot 3555 and 5575 gold tips out of my 55# York recurve.  I just shoot the lighter spined arrows at about 40 grains less point weight at the same length.  I bareshafted them to about 15-20 yards and that is plenty.

What you wind up with is the 3555's weigh a lillte less for the shaft and the itself and for the point so it is a much lighter arrow overall.  The lighter ones seem to fly a lot quicker and therefore "feel" like they shoot flatter.  They actually just get there quicker.  I hunt with the heavier 5575 setup with 200 grains of point weight and 3gpi weight tubes for more punch.  The heavire setup comes out ot 550grns total with 3 - 4" parabolic fletches.