Thanks guys I am not real good at telling stories but I'll give you some details.My bow is a Horne mountain bow 58" 55#@28" that I purchased here on the clasifieds.My arrows are Beman MFX Classic 400 30" with 280gr. up front.100gr. insert and 145 glue on snuffers I also got from a fellow trad gang member.They made a nice hole.Both deer were taken in Hunterdon county NJ.I have access to a small farm there.The doe was taken the first time I hunted there after being in the stand no more than 30 minutes.She was one of four deer,two doe and two fawn, that came by my stand about an hour before sunset.The buck was taken about three in the afternoon he was chasing a hot doe.If it was'nt for the rut I would have not even known he lived in the area.I had only seen does around.Needless to say I was shocked when he came buy and I still do not know how I pulled it off.Thanks again,Greg.