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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2010, 08:04:00 PM »
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Bowhunting is NOT target archery.

If you only have one 'olympic' shot, you WILL miss out on opportunities in the field.  I can give you example after example of kill shots I would have missed out on if I had to stand or cant in the same position.  I have also witnessed many kill shots by other hunters that were way outside the box of an olympic archer.

As bowhunters, we do not get the perfect shot all the time, and we must manufacture and create shots as the terrain and vegetation throws everything in the book at us.  The bowhunter needs more than one shot in his trick bag....he needs to be versatile....but that's up to each individual if he so chooses.  I choose to dictate the shot, and not let the shot dictate me.

Get out there and mix it up.....its a lot of fun.
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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2010, 08:07:00 PM »
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If your alignment is correct, canting the bow shouldn't shorten one's draw length.
 
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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2010, 08:09:00 PM »
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No, you do not 'have' to cant, but you should be able to from various angles and even reverse cant if you want to capitalize on your shot opportunities.
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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2010, 08:11:00 PM »
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To reverse cant, you simply 'over hook' the string and pinch the arrow nock.

That means you rotate your wrist out and hook farther around the string, and when you draw everything will rotate back, and you'll have pressure holding the arrow on the shelf.

Easier shown than told.
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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2010, 08:11:00 PM »
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Cant has nothing to do with 'form'....its just a position the bow is in.

Arrow flight has never been an issue for me....but the site picture changes.
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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2010, 08:12:00 PM »
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I think there is a discrepancy of terms here....

Arrow Flight = one thing.....and Point of Impact = another.

I think the question is about Point of Impact rather than Arrow Flight.

What you have to learn is the site picture, either consciously or subconsciously depending on how you aim.  You have to practice different cant angles to learn the different site picture.  Easier to explain for me by showing rather than typing.
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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2010, 08:14:00 PM »
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If I'm shooting vertical to horizontal, the arrow is still directly under the target cause I still have the arrow aligned for the same site picture because I align my head as well depending on the cant angle....again, easier to show than explain by typing.

The only time my site picture really changes is when I reverse cant....to what ever degree I'm shooting...and the sight picture is different for a slight reverse cant than if I'm lying on my back.
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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2010, 08:40:00 PM »
Hey...I was just lookin' for a hat!....lol

Thanks, though.  I remember the post I made, then.  I was wondering how people settled on a particular position (cant).  After talking to Rod (Jenkins) for a while, I went to a vertical bow.  Whether it was that or something else, my accuracy improved, drastically.  I've just never gone "back".  

I can surely see the need....in some situations (like being able to wear the hat I want!!).

I'm gonna play with it.  If I run into any problems....I'll yell!

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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2010, 08:47:00 PM »
No worries Jeff....This posting wasn't in reference to your thread....but another one that was brought back up from 2007.

Nothing wrong with vertical....but nothing wrong with being versatile either...lots of benefits!!!
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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2010, 07:38:00 PM »
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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2011, 11:05:00 AM »
TTT again for the canting questions.

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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2011, 10:15:00 AM »
That could very well be.  I think I tend to tilt my head more and my torso less when getting tired.  Thanks.
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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2011, 10:23:00 AM »
This is a great and helpful thread. I have ordered the DVD and I am going to try the reverse cant. Thanks Terry for your explanation of a deep hook that makes sense. I agree the more different shooting angles of cant that we can master the more success we will see in the field. Threading the needle can be a real challenge sometimes and being able to shoot standing, sitting, kneeling or however the situation dictates, happens often when hunting. Great advice and video. Thanks for all the input from everyone.

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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2011, 09:41:00 AM »
TTT for the cant thread.

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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2012, 10:44:00 AM »
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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2012, 07:33:00 PM »
I do want to know: how are you keeping the arrow on the rest when you reverse cant?  Have you got your finger on the shaft till you shoot?  I don't cant anymore when I practice, but I think it is good to be able to do it in case you get a "cant or can't" shot in the woods.
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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2012, 12:10:00 AM »
Great thread and Terry some of that shooting is amazing across the pond. Is the tradgang dvd available  to outside the US ? I see two options within the lower 48 and  the other couple .
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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2012, 10:41:00 AM »
Roll the string as you draw to keep the arrow on the shelf.
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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2012, 02:29:00 PM »
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Roll the string as you draw to keep the arrow on the shelf.
That's it?  Doesn't seem like it would stay on the shelf, but I'll take your word for it.  Can't see myself ever trying such a shot, but it sure looks neat to see someone who can do it.
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Re: Cant Never Could
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2012, 04:24:00 PM »
Works for me. I learned it from my Schulz video.
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