Author Topic: Anchor points? (Read 2708 times)

Terry Green · « **Reply #20 on:** February 28, 2008, 02:57:00 PM »

Haldir,

There's no 'Mr. Green' here....there is a Terry though.

I say it works best for him, but not everybody...and it aint best for me.

Some folks draw - anchor - aim -release.

Some folks aim - draw - anchor - release. Like me.

WestTnMan,

Keep us posted!

ishiwannabe · « **Reply #21 on:** February 28, 2008, 05:51:00 PM »

Guys, dont worry about hijacking the thread at all. I have already counted three light bulbs just reading along!
I cant really shoot much now(pinched nerves, compressed dics), but I have taken to looking at others at full draw, and it all kinda makes sense now. I was drawing, adjusting, anchoring and then shooting...thats how the nose took a beating. I know what I need to work on...a few different things actually.
Its funny, but when Im shooting or stumping, and I burn a hole into the spot my arrow is supposed to go, I dont even think about anchoring-drawing...any of it. Next thing I know, my arrow is there. Only thing is that doesnt happen with EVERY shot...and I want it to.
Thanks to ALL who posted. Feel free to add more questions or comments...Im here to learn, and like I said a few comments already got me saying" I do that!".

laddy · « **Reply #22 on:** February 29, 2008, 01:31:00 AM »

Ishi, after reading your post, I went through my Hill and Schulz dvds.If you look close and in slow motion, watch how Hill's thumb sometimes has a bit of give in it as it goes around his jaw, and then on other shots his head seems to fall in line just at the right instant. I would also like to point out that his bow on still targets starts out up and left, looking to me like it would almost block out the view of the target, before dropping down and right at the instant his drawing hand is making his anchor point. I used to have a similar problem as you. I would wear out the skin on my thumb knuckle on my beard stubble. I stopped gripping my pinky with my thumb that allowed my thumb to not have so much energy in it. It also helps me to acknowledge my arrow position in my vision. With some of my bows with the bow canted severely it puts the point to the left, with bows that are not so center shot it keeps the arrow less to the right on the canted shots. Right or wrong that gives me a home base for consistency that helps my confidence.

WestTnMan · « **Reply #23 on:** February 29, 2008, 10:30:00 AM »

I did get to try it out some last night but it was late. I only shot at about 10' so I could concentrate on dragging the nuckle. It is a definate improvement for me. I noticed that as I approached the time to release,those last 5 or 6 inches, the arrow was being pulled to full draw directly under my eye the entire time. The thumb nuckle was a reference to help keep things inline. I noticed that my release was improved, not that it was all that bad before, because the draw was straight inline and the only way to go was straight back. I'm going to screw on some judo's and go stumpin' Saturday so I can really try it out. There is definately something to it and, for me, this is another small tweek that will make a big difference. This is definately something I will be using. Thanks Terry. Has anybody else had a chance to try it?

scriv · « **Reply #24 on:** February 29, 2008, 04:53:00 PM »

Index finger in the corner of my mouth, thumb knuckle under the jaw bone.

Rubiolio · « **Reply #25 on:** February 29, 2008, 06:17:00 PM »

This is a great thread. I'm not a great shooter but competent when I practice and for the last 43 years
(since I was 9 years old and someone showed me)
my anchor point is the one thing that's never changed. The base joint of the thumb against the corner of the jaw gives consistent bone on bone contact and your natural draw length. The three main things I need to remember to shoot well are keeping bowarm shoulder down and locked with elbow a little loose, drawarm elbow straight and finishing the pull by drawing my shoulderblades together.

Rubiolio · « **Reply #26 on:** February 29, 2008, 08:44:00 PM »

Errr... please ignore all my last post except base of thumb against corner of jaw.

TxMoon · « **Reply #27 on:** March 02, 2008, 01:53:00 PM »

Thats a good idea longbowguy it makes since

Terry Green · « **Reply #28 on:** March 02, 2008, 07:08:00 PM »

ishiwannabe,

Glad its working out for ya.

I was taught to shoot a gun much like you also find an animal in your binos. You bring the equipment to your line of sight, and you don't go to where ever the equipment is pointing. You become familiar with your gun by bringing it to shooting alignment over and over so that you can bring it close in line with the target in one smooth motion. I was never taught to bring the gun to shoulder with head held 'out of the way' as I pointed in the vicinity and then lay my head over and find out where the gun is pointing.

When you bring the gun up, its one motion and you are in position for final calibration. You don't raise the gun an point it in the vicinity and then try and find the animal in the sights. Same with binos, you look straight at the animal, and bring the binos into your line of sight, and the animal will be in the field of vision.

The definition of anchor in archery is a reference point that is used to be consistent....and you also need proper alignment with your arms and shoulders, and that's how I shoot by bringing it all to my line of sight in one step. I feel that's best suited for the bowhunter that has a very narrow window of opportunity as it saves time and it creates less movement.

Not sure if the video will show my anchor very well, but it will show my shot all in one step with proper alignment reached and a double anchor....

Shooting Clip

ishiwannabe · « **Reply #29 on:** March 02, 2008, 07:48:00 PM »

Terry, that video brings a lot of things to light for me. Thanks for taking the time to do that(and thank your wife too!). One heck of a group too.
I experimented a little bit with my draw and anchor today....I have been drawing in front of a mirror-dont know if thats good or bad. I draw, slide my head over to anchor, and then aim...just like you thought I might. Time to get close oand work on form AND anchor. Thanks again.

Terry Green · « **Reply #30 on:** March 02, 2008, 07:55:00 PM »

Keep us posted.

Terry Green · « **Reply #31 on:** March 02, 2008, 08:21:00 PM »

Here's one of the greats that brought the equipment to him....

Howard Hill Isolation shot

ishiwannabe · « **Reply #32 on:** March 02, 2008, 09:35:00 PM »

Compared to either video, Im floppin around like a tuna on charter! Its nice to strive for something though. I will keep everyone posted....as soon as I can shoot. :D

Molson · « **Reply #33 on:** March 03, 2008, 07:24:00 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Terry Green:

Some folks draw - anchor - aim -release.

Some folks aim - draw - anchor - release. Like me.

Well how about a bingo! Funny how the simplest solutions elude you. Terry you inadvertantly solved my problem!

I am an aim - draw - anchor - release guy too. After reading this, reviewing the videos posted, and going out and paying attention to what I was doing, I discovered I was creating this anchor problem by changing my focus back and forth between aiming, drawing, aiming, anchoring. Nothing fluid about that at all! Worrying about what I was doing to myself just made it worse.

Makes sense now because on game or stumping, I never think about any mechanics of the shot, it justs happens, and I wasn't having an issue under those circumstances. Under the static environment of the target, I've been trying to focus on too many things at once. Should've known better! Now I can fix it.

Thanks Terry.

Badlands · « **Reply #34 on:** March 04, 2008, 09:32:00 AM »

Terry
Thanks for posting the videos. They have helped a lot.

ishiwannabe · « **Reply #35 on:** March 14, 2008, 09:53:00 PM »

I will be shooting a little tomorrow with some of the best. I hope they can help me out a bit with my anchor.....I will report back in.

Terry Green · « **Reply #36 on:** March 14, 2008, 10:00:00 PM »

No worries guys.....I like to see folks improve, and if I can help, then I'm glad to.

ishiwannabe · « **Reply #37 on:** March 15, 2008, 09:57:00 PM »

Well I managed to shoot a bit today, pinched nerves and all. Took a few tagets to get back to feeling comfortable after a few months with 0 shots.
I was a mess at first, dropping my bow arm, not anchoring, not picking a spot...
Then I calmed down, stopped thinking so much, and focused on the target and feeling that anchor...I started hitting pretty good(for me) in a Muzzy type enviroment. Didnt hit my nose once.
I think if I learn to focus a bit more, and think less, I will be well on my way to shooting better. Waiting for that middle finger to hit the corner of my mouth took forever, but after a few shots, felt pretty good.
Now that I know I can survive shooting without curling up on the couch and whining to my heating pad, I will be working on it.
Oh yeah...I shot a Shrew.....and yes, Im twitterpated.

Wldhorse · « **Reply #38 on:** March 16, 2008, 08:57:00 AM »

I guess that I have been using the double anchor technique all along but not consciously feeling my thumb nuckle on my jaw. Interesting

Wldhorse · « **Reply #39 on:** March 16, 2008, 09:14:00 AM »

In baseball I was taught to run through the bag. I apply the same principle to my anchor points( I call them my release points).

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