Author Topic: Shooting Form - Looking for help - New video on page two (Read 1427 times)

Blasterjdh · « **on:** November 27, 2008, 06:25:00 PM »

Hopefully I can put the video on this right... Sorry for the quality of video - Best I have at the time.

Looking for any and all suggestions - just getting started into Trad and what to get it right from the start. Shooting "okay" considering being new... I working on form at night on a blind bag (30-40 shots a night)..

Equip: 62" Centuar, 49#@28, I pull right at 28"

http://s417.photobucket.com/albums/pp258/Blasterjdh/?action=view¤t=JDShootingview1.flv

http://s417.photobucket.com/albums/pp258/Blasterjdh/?action=view¤t=JDShootingview2.flv

I would appreciate any feedback and help I could get.

Blasterjdh · « **Reply #1 on:** November 28, 2008, 06:53:00 PM »

No comments?

sdpeb1 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 29, 2008, 03:43:00 AM »

I'm new to shooting longbows and have never looked at my form on a video. I hope mine looks as good as yours. Maybe your elbows is a little high. Really rock solid bow arm, I think that says your doing alot right with your shoulder alingnment. How are you shooting? I bet your getting good groups out to 25yrd with that form.

Blasterjdh · « **Reply #3 on:** December 01, 2008, 05:09:00 PM »

Any other comments/help?

sdped1 - Thanks - Not very accurate yet -still mainly working on form - want to get it right the 1st go around - the other day I stacked arrows pretty close at 15yds.

SHOOTO8S · « **Reply #4 on:** December 01, 2008, 06:53:00 PM »

IMHO your biggest holdback at this point is alignment...at anchor the point of the draw elbow works best in alignment with the arrow point. Getting into alignment may require a change in anchor

Blasterjdh · « **Reply #5 on:** December 03, 2008, 07:13:00 PM »

Yep - saw the elbow also - but unsure it or how important it is to have it inline?

Terry Green · « **Reply #6 on:** December 03, 2008, 07:34:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Blasterjdh:
Yep - saw the elbow also - but unsure it or how important it is to have it inline?

MAJOR IMPORTANT!!!

Proper alignment is the key to consistent shooting and good form...it basically takes windage issues out of the equation.

Click here for more info....

I haven't watched the clips yet...but will now.

Terry Green · « **Reply #7 on:** December 03, 2008, 07:44:00 PM »

OK...I agree with SHOOT8S...your elbow is not back far enough. Your head is leaning forward toward the target robbing you of draw length which is partly why your elbow is out of alignment....from what I THINK I saw, your shoulders are pointing too far to the right of the target and should be on the same parallel line as your arrow, this is the other part that is robbing you of draw length and getting your elbow back.

Luckily these are two things you can work on at the same time. Set your shoulders perpendicular to the target, not directly at it, but on the same parallel plane as your arrow. Now when you draw the bow you wont have to THINK about that, but only thing about not leaning your head forward toward the target.

Let me see if I can find the pics to show you...

Terry Green · « **Reply #8 on:** December 03, 2008, 07:55:00 PM »

This is where you are at now basically....

And this is what you should strive for...

If you get this worked out along with your shoulder alignment, you might not have to change your anchor point.

Give it a fair shake....and see what happens.

Terry Green · « **Reply #9 on:** December 03, 2008, 08:21:00 PM »

OK...I watched them again, and you also have a slight creep forward just before release. Watch the 2nd clip and you can see your elbow move forward slightly just before release.

Its not much...but its there.

If you get properly aligned, your will be more set up on bone structure and this will likely cure itself.

Blasterjdh · « **Reply #10 on:** December 04, 2008, 01:13:00 AM »

Thanks for all the input. Truely appreciated. I will definately give it a try. Unfortunately, right now I've got some family issues to take care of. But will give it a go this weekend. After I get that tried out and hopefully working I will try to post another video. Any additional comments I would welcome. THANKS

Blasterjdh · « **Reply #11 on:** December 04, 2008, 01:34:00 AM »

Thanks for all the input. Truely appreciated. I will definately give it a try. Unfortunately, right now I've got some family issues to take care of. But will give it a go this weekend. After I get that tried out and hopefully working I will try to post another video. Any additional comments I would welcome. THANKS

cvarcher · « **Reply #12 on:** December 04, 2008, 06:26:00 PM »

Dont know if its the grip or the way your holding that bow but I dont like the way those limbs surge forward.Doesnt look stabile .Now I know why Hill liked those long straight limbed longbows.

Joe J · « **Reply #13 on:** December 04, 2008, 08:25:00 PM »

I think your limbs are surging forward because you're doing it. Your size plus the tight grip you have on that bow it shouldn't move like that. The reason the olympic guys bows move so far forward is, well put that much weight forward w/ stabalizers and barley hold it in you hand and the bow will follow the arrow (make sense?) I think a big problem w/ the form (elbow allingment being parallel etc) comes from how tight you are holding the bow. Try this walk up to a tree, point your sholders at it and extend you arm. I wish I new where to find a pic to example what I'm saying. Try to grip the bow w/ the web of your hand, thumb and fore finger. Trust me the bow is not going to jump out of your hand. You might be surprised what a lighter grip will do once you get used to it.

Terry Green · « **Reply #14 on:** December 04, 2008, 08:31:00 PM »

The forward bow wobble could be from the improper alignment causing a bit of bow torque....But I aint sure.

Looking forward to seeing a new clip in the future.

Blasterjdh · « **Reply #15 on:** December 05, 2008, 10:25:00 PM »

Okay - Try to place my shoulder straight with the arrow plane (same direction) - at 1st I started catching my right slees of my short sleeve shirt and hitting my arm guard pretty hard. adjusted my arm tilting inward some - Just could not keep my bow arm straight with shoulders -- then saw the diagram again - and saw that I should bring my bow arm inward some..

I beleive my draw increased alittle.. but I seem to be pivoting at the waist some - which inturn opens my stance back up (turning my shoulder away from being in-line). Hmmm Need to work on that.... Feels a little strange -- almost like I'm not pointing the bow arm directly at the target. But shooting well -- see attached photos also -- Group one was with view (video) 3 --- Group two was with view (video) 4.

Also - I griped the bow with just my index finger and thumb area... You can see that on the view 3 (video).

Sorry for getting lengthly - But want to make it as clear as possible on my progress .

Happy with the grouping -- at approx 17 yards..

Video #3
http://s417.photobucket.com/albums/pp258/Blasterjdh/?action=view¤t=JDShootingView3.flv

Video #4
http://s417.photobucket.com/albums/pp258/Blasterjdh/?action=view¤t=JDShootingView4.flv

Photo Groups

#One
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp258/Blasterjdh/Group1.jpg

#Two
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp258/Blasterjdh/Group2.jpg

I appreciate Your support and comments ... I really enjoy getting advice so I can get this on the right track....

3blades · « **Reply #16 on:** December 06, 2008, 09:01:00 AM »

I don't see anything wrong with those groups! A more experienced guy here my comment more on your form but the results speak for themselves. At 17 yards I would be more then happy with that group!

Blasterjdh · « **Reply #17 on:** December 06, 2008, 02:42:00 PM »

Very Happy with the groups - However - Those are not always the case. Just seemed to put everything together on those.

I know consistancy is the key - therefore thats what I'm stiving for for the start.

I appreciate everyones responses and look forward to more.

Blasterjdh · « **Reply #18 on:** December 11, 2008, 07:39:00 PM »

Please critue 2nd set of video footage concerning form --- Yes very happy with the grouping - but as stated earlier - that tight of groups are not very common yet -- just put it all together on those I guess.

Have not had the time (work during the entire daylight period) to do any additional shooting. But have been blind baling shooting at approx 6 feet almost every night for at least 50-60 arrows.

I tried to grip the bow with just the webbing of my thumb and index finger but the bow still tends move forward as seen in the video -- hmmm -- what am I doing wrong....

I truly appreciate all comments and suggestions.
Just want to get it right when doing my nightly form practicing...

I love this site !!!!

donpatch · « **Reply #19 on:** December 11, 2008, 08:46:00 PM »

Ok, I have looked at all the videos and pics. of groups and have to say that you are doing great. Don't be so concerned with shooting tight groups. Form is the biggest obstacle for a beginner and you are looking good. Right now you just need to shoot as much as you can with good form and build your muscle memory. Once you get your muscles conditioned to shoot with good form you will see that your groups will take care of themselves. You are already way ahead of the curve for the average beginner with your form so just shoot as much as you can and have fun!

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