Working On Form

[waiting4fall]

I have a few things to work on.

 http://www.youtube.com/user/W8N4FALL

[waiting4fall]

Mods I double posted, please remove one, thanks.

[BobCo 1965]

Great preshot routine (touching chest) and mindset before the shot!

I'll point out just a few things. I admit that I did not watch your entire video.

Remember the basic "T" stance. Your core body is in perfect position if the target would have been at shoulder level. The target however, is below shoulder level. Always strive to keep the "T" position no matter where the target is. You will be such more consistant if you do. In order to get there try drawing as if the target is shoulder level, then bend at the waist to bring the bow arm down. After a while, you will learn to bend at the waist before drawing.

Try to keep consistant bow arm tension. Push toward the target from the palm (right were you want to hit). If you do it right you will feel a stretch running under your bow arm, especially in the tricep. You want to keep things equal on both sides. Think of an = sign in the middle of your chest and the pulling on the draw side is equal to the pushing on the bow arm side. When done right, you will not see a kick to the side on the bow arm and the bow will want to pop straight out of your hand.

[McDave]

I did watch the whole video, and admire your form.  99% of what I see is good, which I would expect, given your training, but I don't suppose that's why you posted it here.

I think you can work on simplifying your draw and anchor.  I see you drawing the bow in one motion, and then locating your nose anchor in another motion.  As a result, sometimes you have to move your head back to get your nose anchor, and other times I see you losing a bit of back tension and letting your string hand creep forward just a tad.  Then after all that is done, I see you stabilize yourself for a couple of seconds, during which time you probably regain whatever back tension you might have lost, and because of that you can then get off what is probably a pretty good shot.

What you might consider doing is to move your head into position as you draw the bow, so your nose is in position to meet the cock feather as you reach full draw.  Then continue to build back tension until the conclusion of your shot.  It is not all that easy using Rick's method of anchoring to continue to build back tension as you hold, since the cock feather is already touching your nose when you start your hold, but it is possible, since the arrow doesn't have to move back much, if any, further as you build back tension at full draw.

It is possible that you may be cramping yourself a bit, and may need to move the cock feather a little further down the arrow (isn't it fun to think of refletching all your arrows?).  I say that because it seems like when you naturally draw the arrow to full draw, you then have to move your head back a little to get your nose behind the cock feather.  Ideally, holding your head in a naturally upright position, you should be able to reach full draw at the exact same time that the back of the cock feather barely touches your nose, allowing for a slight additional backwards movement of the arrow as you continue to build back tension without jamming the cock feather into your nose.

[metsastaja]

not sure what distance you are shooting but I did notice you are dropping your bow arm and moving it to the left before your arrow hit target.

That being said wish my form was that consistent

[waiting4fall]

Originally posted by McDave:
I did watch the whole video, and admire your form.  99% of what I see is good, which I would expect, given your training, but I don't suppose that's why you posted it here.

I think you can work on simplifying your draw and anchor.  I see you drawing the bow in one motion, and then locating your nose anchor in another motion.  As a result, sometimes you have to move your head back to get your nose anchor, and other times I see you losing a bit of back tension and letting your string hand creep forward just a tad.  Then after all that is done, I see you stabilize yourself for a couple of seconds, during which time you probably regain whatever back tension you might have lost, and because of that you can then get off what is probably a pretty good shot.

What you might consider doing is to move your head into position as you draw the bow, so your nose is in position to meet the cock feather as you reach full draw.  Then continue to build back tension until the conclusion of your shot.  It is not all that easy using Rick's method of anchoring to continue to build back tension as you hold, since the cock feather is already touching your nose when you start your hold, but it is possible, since the arrow doesn't have to move back much, if any, further as you build back tension at full draw.

It is possible that you may be cramping yourself a bit, and may need to move the cock feather a little further down the arrow (isn't it fun to think of refletching all your arrows?).  I say that because it seems like when you naturally draw the arrow to full draw, you then have to move your head back a little to get your nose behind the cock feather.  Ideally, holding your head in a naturally upright position, you should be able to reach full draw at the exact same time that the back of the cock feather barely touches your nose, allowing for a slight additional backwards movement of the arrow as you continue to build back tension without jamming the cock feather into your nose.

Great input from you, as usual. I'm in a bit of a rush but wanted to address my draw. The reason Ihave a "multi stage draw" for lack of a better term is because I'm trying to make sure I properly execute all the steps in the routine.

So thumb to ear= back tension is 1 step. Once I'm locked in then I settle into the feather on the nose. I totally get what you're saying about head placement preexisting to accomodate the 2 anchors. I've definitely thought about it but have'nt had the time to begin that modification. I will have to work on that, which will take some time. I really appreciate your input, on my form. I'm gonna somehow put a knife under my bow arm, to teach me to keep the darn thing still!!  :eek:  Also Leaning my head back, I thought I fixed that, until I watched the vid. Rick has seen my vid, & I'm going to his house the weekend before the world championship, I guarantee we'll get it lined out in no time at all. Gotta go.

[waiting4fall]

Originally posted by BobCo 1965:
Great preshot routine (touching chest) and mindset before the shot!

I'll point out just a few things. I admit that I did not watch your entire video.

Remember the basic "T" stance. Your core body is in perfect position if the target would have been at shoulder level. The target however, is below shoulder level. Always strive to keep the "T" position no matter where the target is. You will be such more consistant if you do. In order to get there try drawing as if the target is shoulder level, then bend at the waist to bring the bow arm down. After a while, you will learn to bend at the waist before drawing.

Try to keep consistant bow arm tension. Push toward the target from the palm (right were you want to hit). If you do it right you will feel a stretch running under your bow arm, especially in the tricep. You want to keep things equal on both sides. Think of an = sign in the middle of your chest and the pulling on the draw side is equal to the pushing on the bow arm side. When done right, you will not see a kick to the side on the bow arm and the bow will want to pop straight out of your hand.

Great stuff, thanks!      

[Red Tailed Hawk]

Great shooting    Can somebody explain to me the purpose of chest tapping.

[Red Tailed Hawk]

Hope you found your arrow.

[waiting4fall]

quote:Originally posted by Red Tailed Hawk:
Great shooting      Hopefully that won't be happen but rarely.

[Winterhawk1960]

Originally posted by Red Tailed Hawk:
Great shooting       Can somebody explain to me the purpose of chest tapping.

I asked Rick the same question back in December. I just thought that it was something to calm him down and help him focus.

That's what I get for "thinking"    

Looking GOOD.........Dave !!!

You've came a lot further than I have, but I'm still workin' on it.

Winterhawk1960

[eric-thor]

the only two things i see that may help or not. is it looks like you are gripping the bow.... and i prefer a dynamic follow through. something to try. try holding the bow more relaxed like rod jenkins maby or try some different hand positions on blank bail. other than that the other guys got you coverd. good luck