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Offline HUNT 24/7

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Re: point- on range
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2010, 04:16:00 PM »
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For about the last 40+ years. Never had a bow tillered for it until the last couple years. It never made any difference before, and probably doesn't make an difference now.  :^)  Just tune your bow and shoot.  

Over the years, I've made my point-on 30 yards with every bow I shoot, no matter if it's 60# or 40#.  That way, I don't have to compensate from one bow to the next, or from 3D to hunting, etc. [/QB][/QUOTE]

 This is good to know Jim, I am shooting a HH Wesley Special 70# @28" & I think I've read on here that it is supposed to be shot split finger??? BUT, when I shot it 3 under the arrows flew great & hit the mark more often than before, I love looking down the arrow, it just looks awesome.
 I am going to to try it a couple weeks & see how I make out.   :archer2:

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Re: point- on range
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2010, 12:34:00 AM »
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The buck in my avatar was taken shooting 3-under, but I'm by no means an expert shooter.  I've recently tuned by bow with longer arrows so my point on is 20 yards, my current effective range that I limit myself to.  Doing so has given me more confidence at that distance.  I will however shoot split finger with a higher anchor point similar to yours if I need to really cant the bow or moving targets, or just having fun.  I know, I know it's not "consistent" but it works for me.
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Re: point- on range
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2010, 06:27:00 PM »
When you're using the arrow point to aim the shot, you either need to focus on the arrow point or on your target.  Most hunters focus on the target, so the arrow point is a blur in their peripheral vision.  This is the way Howard Hill aimed his bow.  There is also a style of aiming where you focus on the arrow point, and the target is a blur.  This is how they taught me to shoot my rifle in the Marine Corps (well, we didn't have arrow points, but we did have a front sight).

But whichever one you choose, if you accidently shift your focus, you will miss the shot.  It is an easy thing to do as you draw your bow and the arrow comes up into your vision to shift your focus to the arrow, or maybe some intermediate point between the target and the arrow.  If your method of aiming is to focus on the target, and you lose that focus for any reason, you will miss the shot.
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Re: point- on range
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2010, 08:25:00 PM »
I always have my focus on my spot, but I do see the arrow point as a blur in my vision. It just helps when that blur is somewhere near the target, not in the dirt half way there.

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Re: point- on range
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2010, 09:34:00 PM »
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Any hunters out there shooting 3 under?????
Yes, there are bunches of us!
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Re: point- on range
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2010, 09:38:00 PM »
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Any hunters out there shooting 3 under?????
Yes, there are bunches of us! [/b]
Right on, I know there sure are alot of 3 under target shooters, I shot 3 under yesterday & it is an instant improvment for me.

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Re: point- on range
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2010, 09:44:00 PM »
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Originally posted by HUNT 24/7:
Any hunters out there shooting 3 under?????
Yes, there are bunches of us! [/b]
Right on, I know there sure are alot of 3 under target shooters, I shot 3 under yesterday & it is an instant improvment for me. [/b]
Good for you, bro!
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171 FPS @ 9.7 GPP (475 gr. 3D arrow)
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Re: point- on range
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2010, 08:40:00 PM »
I shoot split and keep my arrow weight around 8.5 gpp.  My poa is 58 yds.  I tried 3 under for a couple weeks and my poa was around 23.  Gave it up for that reason -- I like shooting longer at targets.

Your anchor point is the control over poa.  The only way to change is move your anchor point, change from split to 3 under, or go to a different bow or arrow setup.

Once you figure out your poa it will probably just become another bit of trivia unless you start shooting long shots.
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Re: point- on range
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2010, 12:20:00 PM »
Thanks Earthdog, you answered my question about the poundage part. I shoot 3 under, 50#s@27"s,with 500-520gr. arrows and my point on is around 26yds. So many folks I know have a 45-50-55 point on. I just figured it had to be my short draw or light poundage. Thanks again!
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Re: point- on range
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2010, 06:23:00 PM »
I just tried to establish my point on range, and stopped at forty yards because my target backstop is too small and I have a cornfield behind it. @ 40 yds my arrow went about a foot and a half above point of aim.  I shoot a 60# Hunter recurve, 29" 2216s with 175 gr. heads.  That's alot of arrow. I draw about 27 1/2" and shoot three under.  I'm guessing my point on to be around 50 yds.  Does that sound realistic?

 
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Re: point- on range
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2010, 11:42:00 AM »
Im shooting 53#@27" which is my draw lenght. three under and my point on is 25 yds. I shoot pure instinctive out to 25 yds and if a longer shot presents itself i use gap shooting, top of back at 30 yds, 6" over back for 35yds and about 12" over back at 40 yds. I find at close range i can execute a faster more accurate shot with instinctive.
And in the end when i can no longer draw the bow or watch the arrow embark on its flight;when i posses only the spirit of the hunter, i will hunt.... if only in my dreams... because the hunt is born amidst my soul, and i... i am the hunter

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Re: point- on range
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2010, 12:05:00 PM »
I have been hunting for about 35 years and always shot split finger, but recently bought a bow that was tillered 3 under and decided to give it a try. It really works well for me. After looking at some of my trad videos i realized that the majority of the good shooters on them are shooting 3 under so im sticking with it. I feel its easier to be more consistent
And in the end when i can no longer draw the bow or watch the arrow embark on its flight;when i posses only the spirit of the hunter, i will hunt.... if only in my dreams... because the hunt is born amidst my soul, and i... i am the hunter

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Re: point- on range
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2010, 12:20:00 PM »
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Any hunters out there shooting 3 under?????
Yes, there are bunches of us! [/b]
Right on, I know there sure are alot of 3 under target shooters, I shot 3 under yesterday & it is an instant improvment for me. [/b]
Something I used to see was three WAY under.  

The arrow had an upper and lower nock point on the string and the fingers were another inch or more below that (a little rubber ball indexed the finger grip spot).  So, the arrow was right below the eye but with a low jaw (or ear) anchor.  I forget what it was called but it was not allowed for "official" use at our field course.

To aim, you would "walk" the index ball up or down in your grip so the point-aim distance would move.  That part was called "string walking" and a variation was to count the serving threads ("thread counting") and grip it with your index finger below that spot (having worked out the yardages eariler through trial and error.  Both methods were "cheats" at barebow (now "traditional") shoots; though I think FITA allowed/allows it.
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