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Offline tyu888

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Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« on: April 06, 2011, 03:40:00 PM »
I believe majority of the archery reading material out there advocates dynamic release and suggests a continuous pull and push method when drawing a bow.
Personally, I find it not very natural while trying to aim and draw with a pull and push motion at the same time.
I seem to be able to shot more accurately with dead release as I hold it with my back muscle once at full draw instead of continuously trying to pull and push.

Does anyone out there feel the same way or which way is really better or it is a matter of personal preference ??
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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2011, 03:53:00 PM »
I use a dead release too and it works for me.  It works for Ron LaClair also.
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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2011, 06:17:00 PM »
I agree...it just doesn't seem natural to do all that just to release the string.

When I'm at full draw there is no place for my arm to go back any farther...unless I just manufacture something and that wouldn't work too well.

Dead release works for me.
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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2011, 11:08:00 PM »
I pretty much use a dead release as well. I try to use a dynamic release from time to time but my shots splatter all around.
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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2011, 11:30:00 PM »
i agree- dynamic is too erratic for me.
but watch rick welches you tube videos in slo mo.
his release is so dead, that after release his hand flops all over the place- no two times the same- i cant emulate that- the best for me is a totally dead release.

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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 11:38:00 PM »
Dead here all the way , dont think there is another way that was just a rumor going around the other day. I just cant pull through the few times I tried that way I had to put the dogs up cause about every 6th shot was pretty ugly. I just cant do it so I dont fix what aint broke anymore.
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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2011, 03:42:00 AM »
I think for 3D and Bowhunting the dead release works just fine, they dynamic release works better for IFAA Field as you tend not to get so many arrows drop short on the long shots.

The important thing is that the release is repeatable and comfortable.

If you shoot with a dead release it will be very hard and unnatural to change to dynamic release, I know because I went through this learning process.

When I'm teaching beginers I always teach dynamic release because when learnt correctly I feel it's more consistent than the dead release.

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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2011, 05:09:00 AM »
If you have to think about it, that means your not putting all of your focus on the target. I've seen guys that shoot with a dynamic release overly stress it, almost like a rear pluck and I've seen guys with a dead release creep on the shot. I like to combine both. I use a dynamic release but my hand travels back very little.
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Offline cbCrow

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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2011, 07:36:00 AM »
I guess my release is more dynamic than anything. I draw to my spot(anchor)pause, than with all my concentration on the target release. Usually my fingers will be about 1" in front of ear. I agree a lot of people overstress their release which I feel takes away from the target. I just let it flow.

Offline BobCo 1965

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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2011, 11:35:00 AM »
Keep in mind that the follow through and hand position after the arrow leaves the bow is mainly a consequence or reaction of increasing back tension, consistent back tension, let up of back tension, or no back tension.

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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2011, 10:22:00 PM »
I've only been shooting my recurve for about a month now(Converted from compound)and I found that my Dynamic release is pretty accurate for first shots, but my dead release is more consistent with multiple shots after I've had time to warm up.

I would say I like dynamic but after an hour or so I get cocky and that's when my yard eats an arrow.

I have been practicing different versions of dynamic (Push pull, H. Hill's swing, etc...)to find the one that is right for me and when shooting over and over there is always that one or two that eventually just misses and dives into the grass.

Dead release is more akin to my compound but at #50 it doesn't take long to start wobbling and aching after a while.    

It feels natural to just point and shoot, but when it really counts there's always the feeling that you should hold it back and really aim.

I feel more comfortable dead shooting when I am practicing shot after shot to get warmed up, but it makes it harder to practice often because my fingers really hurt the next day even though I use a double thick traditional speed glove from Kustom King.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is I can't decide which I should focus on Dynamic or dead if/when I go hunting.

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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2011, 11:45:00 PM »
which one do you do without thinking about it- just absolutely focus on a target( stump shooting is great for this)  and release- and get someone to tell you what you did.

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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2011, 01:11:00 AM »
being new to this I watch a lot of guys very closely and it is amazing how many good shooters there are that don't "fit the mold"

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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2011, 01:24:00 AM »
Put a clicker on and you'll know if you use a dynamic release or not..   :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:  

I pull through it's the only way I know how to shoot.. stopping the pull to hold is not a natural act for me..
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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2011, 01:44:00 AM »
I like a dynamic release.  It took a while to get it down but now my release is buttery smooth and my accuracy has increased dramatically.
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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2011, 12:35:00 AM »
I'd agree with Longstick on this one.  I've shot with guys who have that picture perfect dynamic release, and yet I shoot regularly with  Schlaggerman (Dale Klug) who has a dead release, and is the best shot I know personally.  I'm sure that either way could be learned/trained but I think that each of us has our natural tendency and the more important aspect is keeping the hand from flying away from the face.  (I think Rick Welch's release is his hidden way of saying "I'll still out shoot you!")
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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2011, 12:44:00 PM »
I shoot Dynamic...

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and Rod Jenkins has some good info on Dynamic....Rod Shoots Dynamic also...even though it 'looks' like he's holding...he will tell you he is not.....he's posted before his release is the same as mine...only in ultra slow-mo compared to mine.

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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2011, 01:41:00 PM »
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Put a clicker on and you'll know if you use a dynamic release or not..    :biglaugh:      :biglaugh:  

This could be an interesting experiment, somebody with a dead release to try a clicker to see firstly if you improve your shooting and then to see if your release becomes dynamic.

Offline BuckyT

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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2011, 04:10:00 PM »
I've found I have a dead release.  When I decide to let go of the string, my hand just drops right by my cheek.

I'm new to trad shooting and I've read up on the dynamic release.  I tried it and didn't like it at all and my accuracy suffered, so I went right back to shooting and releasing the way I started doing it and like the dead style I've apparently adopted much better.

When I tried the dynamic style release I felt like I was intentionally pulling my hand and arm back after I released and I it was messing with my mental focus of the target before I even let go of the string..

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Re: Dynamic Vs Dead Release
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2011, 02:17:00 AM »
I feel the same.  I like to lock up the back at full draw and then settle in for the shot.  I relax the back of my hand and away it goes.  

I used a clicker or quite a while.  I had to pull just a little further to set it off and my release happened at the same moment.  I did well with it but i am better with a locked up shoulder blade because I am actually using fewer muscles and there is less muscle tension in my body.
I am the guy who believes that the fewer muscles you use the more relaxed you will be.  A good long distance runner is actually relaxed when he runs.  A pole volter uses fewer muscles than you think.  he uses technique and he subconciously understands momentum and leverage.

I dont really have target panic or anything like that.  But I do see the value of the dynamic release.
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