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Offline dink

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open hand grip
« on: March 29, 2013, 08:26:00 AM »
bin messing around with a more open hand grip.letting the bow rest in the meaty part of my hand between the thumb and pointer finger. seams to tighten up groups who else has discovered this  
 
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Re: open hand grip
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2013, 08:58:00 AM »
dink,

Go to the Shooter's FORM forum and do a search for a thread called "grip question."  I posted a suggested grip that works very well for many.

See if that helps.

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Re: open hand grip
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2013, 09:05:00 AM »
Yep most bows do not want to be "choked".  A relaxed hand with the bow resting on the life line in your hand does very well.

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Re: open hand grip
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2013, 09:25:00 AM »
Thats the grip I use, seems to work best for me too.

Tom

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Re: open hand grip
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2013, 11:33:00 AM »
I would argue that the grip Moebow shows is the best for accurate shooting and if a shooter is willing to take the time and effort to learn it and make it habit their shooting will improve.  The thing I see with open hand shooting is most shooters unconsciously try to grab the bow on release and that jerks the bow around.  Some blank bale time can cure that, just watch for it's return and keep it in check.
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Re: open hand grip
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2013, 11:48:00 AM »
i find myself sometimes taking a panick grab just at the end but i do think the arrow is well on its way when i shot the other bow i did the same hold but had a sling on my wrist to keep the bow from hitting the ground i wander if theres a\\nother way to feel more secure that you wont drop the bow


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Re: open hand grip
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2013, 12:59:00 PM »
I like the open hand also..and have always used a sling so no problem there. However, I have found on the bows I shoot open hand grip is louder. So, I shoot a somewhat loose grip with the tips of my fingers all touching the front of riser. It muffles a little better.

Most likely when I shoot at game I have a death grip on anyway.

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Re: open hand grip
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2013, 01:07:00 PM »
Matt, if you look at Arne's pictures you will see that his index and thumb are touching.  This contact allows your brain to not worry about dropping the bow and not be so likely to grab.  Again, some close in blank bale time will help train you brain.
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Re: open hand grip
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2013, 03:29:00 PM »
Whether your thumb and forefinger touch is really not important because that would depend on the size and shape of the grip and the size/length of your fingers.

What I do think is important is that your fingers are relaxed to the back of the grip so the bow is already "caught."  This does two things.  First, it relaxes your forearm muscles and allows better (non-interfered with by muscle) bone on bone contact.  Second,  you have already caught the bow which removes any unnecessary movement as the release happens.

Lastly, IF you CAN don't allow the bow grip to touch or pass your lifeline to the little finger side.  That keeps the center of pressure of the bow on the base of your thumb and directly on the end of the arm bone behind the thumb.

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Re: open hand grip
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2013, 07:07:00 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by moebow:
dink,

Go to the Shooter's FORM forum and do a search for a thread called "grip question."  I posted a suggested grip that works very well for many.

See if that helps.

Arne
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Re: open hand grip
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2013, 08:28:00 AM »
I have done a buncnh of searches for MOBOW's pictures on the threat Grop Question with no success.  Can someone pass the link on.


Thanks.
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Re: open hand grip
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2013, 08:52:00 AM »
It comes up on page two when you search the "Shooters Form Forum."  Anyway, here is the link.

 http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=005763#000000

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Re: open hand grip
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2013, 09:10:00 PM »
Thanks Arne.  Nice to see my grip is very similar.  Only difference is that I like to tuck my bottom three fingers on the left side of the grip.
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Re: open hand grip
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2013, 09:52:00 PM »
That's perfectly OK Tracker!  The big thing is getting the ulna in the forearm right behind the pressure of the bow grip.

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Re: open hand grip
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2013, 10:14:00 AM »
Hi Arne,

I am guilty of liking to choke the bow. Do you recommend the same hand alignment for a recurve with a medium or high wrist?

Thanks,

Doug

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Re: open hand grip
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2013, 10:24:00 AM »
DTD,  As the "cut" of the grip gets higher it can be more of a challenge since your hand will try to slide up the bow grip and "jam" the web of your hand into the pivot point.

That said, I find that I can shoot ANY bow with any grip with this technique.  Sometimes you need to "play" with it a little but it will  work.

The harder (tighter) you grip the bow, the more unneeded and unwanted tension you get in the bow arm.

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