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Offline RETARMY06

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Re: Thinking too much vs Snap shooting...questions?
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2013, 09:45:00 AM »
I was snap shooting because I was struggling to get the string back far enough, and almost had to get a "running start" at reaching my anchor.

So yesterday I started thinking that I have to shoot how MY body is designed and find an anchor that works for me.   :cool:  

So now I'm only drawing about 26 inches instead of my measured 27, but I can anchor until I'm ready to release, about two seconds I guess which is plenty really since I get my sight picture as I'm drawing back anyway.

As a result I was amazing myself with very tight, consistent groups!  

I'm probably only drawing 40# with my 45# bow, which is plenty for Georgia deer out to 20 yards.

Offline canopyboy

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Re: Thinking too much vs Snap shooting...questions?
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2013, 09:40:00 AM »
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Originally posted by moebow:
Ya, shag,

IF you are serious about improving, you need to accept that your accuracy will go down for a while.  One of the most frustrating things for coaches and instructors is seeing a comment that "I tried that and it just doesn't work for me."  Only to find out that the "try" was a few arrows last night.  You MUST give the "new" a fair chance to develop.

It is an accepted fact that it takes at least 21 FULL practice sessions before a habit, new form change, etc. can take effect.  For many folks that's at LEAST 2 months if not more.

Also, shooting at a "bull's eye" during the form change will/can destroy any progress made.  You MUST be dedicated and accept that the improvement will come -- but NOT immediately -- IT TAKES TIME!!!!

Arne
Going through it right now.  Part of my problem is inconsistency.  I was happy with how I shot my recurve.  When I was in the zone, I could put all 5 arrows in a soda can at 20 paces.  I switched to a Hill style, and a lot of things about my form made it tough to shoot well and I went into a speed wobble.  As I've practiced with it and tried to improve my form kind of half-arsed like, I have gotten better and when I pick up a recurve, that has improved as well.

But the fact that I would go through a few weeks of feeling deadly accurate only to go through a few weeks of a slump really bothers me.  And if I concentrated on what I was doing, things would only get worse.  I know that hunting I want to be able to shoot without thinking about it.  Luckily, that is what works well and I have great first shots.  But I want to feel like I'm not limited to a quick subconscious shot.  If I see a deer and I need to hold for a second before release, or if I do start to play mental games with myself and start thinking about the shot, I still want to know I'm able make it.  

Just seems to me that if you've got the fundamentals of form (knowing that each person is different), you're better off in the long run.  Many people can be good at sports with some natural ability and practice.  But the top athletes invariably have a little more time spent on technique.

I've watched MBB 3 the other night again, and think I need to spend some time on the basics.  And of course I'm delving into the shooter's forum here for the first time.  I'm finding myself in agreement with the philosophy that moebow is explaining above.  And I hope that I can pull some of it together by hunting season this year and be better shooter down the road for the effort.

Anyhow, that's enough of my opinions.  Love what others post -- good stuff.

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Re: Thinking too much vs Snap shooting...questions?
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2013, 09:43:00 AM »
Oh, and as for distractions, when we hit the 3D range for fun, there seems to be effort among the group (especially when my girls come along) to mess with the shooter.  Knocking the water off the tree over them, talking about thet size of the antlers.  Making comments as they start their draw, etc.  Tell you what, it does teach you to be able to block that stuff out and concentrate on your shot.
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Re: Thinking too much vs Snap shooting...questions?
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2013, 07:24:00 PM »
If I try to hold at full draw my groups become shotgun patterns. When I snap shoot, I am so much more accurate, it's not even close. Find what works for you.

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Re: Thinking too much vs Snap shooting...questions?
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2013, 02:48:00 PM »
Check out these articles by Dennis Kamstra. They offer a very good viewpoint on the subject.

   Snap Shooting

   Snap Shooting II


   Snap Shooting III
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