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Offline t4tutor

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please critique on my form
« on: July 26, 2013, 02:18:00 PM »
Hello,

As I mentioned in the previous post for the last few weeks I have been trying to learn new form, so I have filmed myself today. It is the first time I have made a video of myself trying to shoot Moebow1 teaches in his video. Looking at myself from aside I am not as happy as I felt shooting  :)  Therefore I would like your remarks on the points that need working on the most. Here is the link to my video.
 

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Re: please critique on my form
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2013, 02:55:00 PM »
Tomas,

The video is a little dark to see everything but you are looking pretty good overall.  I do see just the slightest forward lean of your upper body and head and a small creep or collapse just before release.

It looks to me that you have the basics but are still thinking about the routine during the shot.  That is normal, it will take a little while to learn to do it more smoothly and to conquer the forward movement of the string hand at release.  As you practice the "smoothness" will come, be patient and keep at it.  Just remember to keep your string shoulder coming back at anchor and I think the creep will go away.

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Re: please critique on my form
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2013, 04:56:00 PM »
thank you for the feedback, you are absolutely right, there really is still too much thinking involved about the shot sequence. There are many flaws at the moment, but I am already much happier learning the proper way of executing the shot, compared to the way I used to shoot in the past.

Offline Boneyard Bowhunter

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Re: please critique on my form
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2013, 08:00:00 PM »
The dynamic release is good form but don't force it let back tension make it happen. If you have to think about it you are not concentrating on that little tiny spot you want to hit.
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Re: please critique on my form
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2013, 01:12:00 AM »
Hi Boneyard,

Thanks for the suggestion, but for the time being I must consciously focus on what I am doing to learn the new technique. I must admit it is really difficult not to want to hit the spot until I have learned new shot sequence, but I hope it pays off at the end.

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Re: please critique on my form
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2013, 08:03:00 PM »
Try getting five feet from your target, close your eyes, draw and don't aim at anything. Just draw and release. Think of nothing but how the draw and release feels. Do this five times then shoot once at the same distance with your eyes open. Continue to do this sequence till the draw and release is habit and you don't have to think about it.
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Re: please critique on my form
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2013, 12:51:00 PM »
Thank you Arne and Boneyard to take time to comment on my post.
One more thing: As I have been practicing the new form every time I reveal something new. For example, rotating the elbow is most difficult thing to accomplish, because I developed a bad habit to pull it instead. I also noticed that when it happens for me to do the pull my bow shoulder rotates outwards and when rotation occurs the bow arm gets firmly locked in the shoulder socket. Is this how the human mechanics supposed to work or am I on the wrong track again? Thanks!

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Re: please critique on my form
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2013, 01:03:00 PM »
It sounds like you are on the right track IF by "rotating the elbow" you mean the string elbow and moving it perpendicular to your arrow -- towards your back.  Your bow shoulder should not move but making that motion on the string side does help to keep the bow shoulder immobile.

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Re: please critique on my form
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2013, 01:13:00 PM »
yes, it`s exactly what I had in mind, English is not my primary language, sorry about that  :)  That bow arm issue was discovered while observing myself during the shots, thank you Arne again.  

Tomas

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Re: please critique on my form
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2013, 03:57:00 PM »
I don't think rotating the elbow is a natural thing to do. You must be relaxed when you shoot the same as when you do any sport. Don't lock your elbow. Try dropping your elbow just a little bit this will get your arm away form the string and it will be a more natural feel. Instinctive shooting uses a stance like a boxer, batter, tennis player or basketball. Stay loose. If it doesn't feel rite it probably isn't. Don't use the stance of a sight shooter. That is a different game.
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Re: please critique on my form
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2013, 03:36:00 AM »
Hi Boneyard,

Thanks for your remarks regarding my form. I have been shooting instinctively for almost a year by now and I am happy I have chosen this type of shooting. Sadly, it took me almost as much time to understand that without proper form I will not be able to be a good archer. Rotating elbow felt VERY unnatural in the beginning, but now it becomes easier to achieve and I am happy with my progress. You are right about my stance, when feeling awkward in the beginning I used to stand like a statue or target archer as you say. Now, when I get to feel my right muscles working I feel more relaxed in my stance. For me the hardest part is to relax the draw hand as it wants to draw before rotation occurs. And yes, the worst part of it is...... discipline,that`s my biggest weakness.

Tomas

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