He doesn't own or regularly shoot a longbow and is a good recurve shot he likes longbows but hasn't shot one yet that he's been able to connect with I'm not sure if it's the grip, riser mass weight or what it just seems like it's a form issue but I can't say for sure. The closer to center cut hybrid is probably going to be a starting point when we get to a trad shoot that some different bowyers are attending, if one of these doesn't work out then we'll have to pick apart his form. THANKS guys.